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LeeSV 21-05-07 10:52 PM

Knee down .. finally!
 
After trying and giving up believing i was too short, i went out tonight in a ****ed off mood and managed it 3 times on a left hander, took me 21 attempts for the first touch down, 3rd time i got the peg down at the same time. Scary stuff but bloody damn addictive. :cool:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5805/p1010074jb8.jpg

As you can see here the front tire was close to lowside material. :-k

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7669/p1010070yi5.jpg

keithd 22-05-07 10:44 AM

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do you feel better for it?

i dont see the obsession myself, and riding in a hacked off mood is a recipe for disaster in my humble.

still, if it flicks ya switch and all that, fair play.

Law 22-05-07 11:07 AM

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Well done. 8)

Wish I could get me knee down, will try when I eventually go on a track day. Don't fancy sticking my knee out on the road.

Your tyre looks fine to me, my front looks like that on the rhs.

MiniMatt 22-05-07 11:15 AM

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Eep :) First off congrats :) Secondly, if you're already grinding pegs, then you're already have more than enough lean, and you could get your knee down much earlier. In my occasionally humble opinion, getting your knee down much earlier doesn't actually bring you any benefit, but if it's your goal (and I'm going to guess you're going to want the right hand one scraped pretty soon!) then you might want to work on body position a bit more - your problem is obviously not one of lean angle.

There are plenty of threads elsewhere that explain this much better, but briefly, my best advice is to dip your inside shoulder, kinda move off and forward as if going toward the inside mirror, and just let your knee drop down - not move it forward along the fairing, just let gravity drop it out.

MiniMatt 22-05-07 11:37 AM

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Hmm confused now :) You mention it was on a left hander, and the tyre photo confirms this, but the slider photo appears to show your right knee??

I think I've figured it out, this was your first knee down whilst riding backwards? We're not worthy :notworthy:

DanAbnormal 22-05-07 12:16 PM

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Good work. If you are getting your pegs down you need to get your ass out of the seat and swivel aorund the tank more. Kneedowns are great fun and look quite cool with sparky sliders. As you can see from my sliders, I favour left handers!:)

LeeSV 22-05-07 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniMatt (Post 1193348)
Hmm confused now :) You mention it was on a left hander, and the tyre photo confirms this, but the slider photo appears to show your right knee??

I think I've figured it out, this was your first knee down whilst riding backwards? We're not worthy :notworthy:

Note the shape of knee slider, next time you see someone wearing Arlen Ness leathers you'll notice that "Arlen Ness" is written in grey on the inside of the leg, not the outside.

LeeSV 22-05-07 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwakadan (Post 1193414)
Good work. If you are getting your pegs down you need to get your ass out of the seat and swivel aorund the tank more. Kneedowns are great fun and look quite cool with sparky sliders. As you can see from my sliders, I favour left handers!:)

Thats crazy, you must be taller than the green giant :p . As for swiveling around the tank i've been told thats the wrong way to do it, last night i was just keeping my whole body in line with the back and hanging off .. next time i'll try swiveling as you said.

suzsv650 22-05-07 05:48 PM

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me on the R6

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7...0269wk2.th.jpg

and one of me m8s on the ninga both of us got sparkies on cant see mine as much tho cus im level with the camera

DanAbnormal 23-05-07 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeSV (Post 1193805)
Thats crazy, you must be taller than the green giant :p . As for swiveling around the tank i've been told thats the wrong way to do it, last night i was just keeping my whole body in line with the back and hanging off .. next time i'll try swiveling as you said.

Nope, I'm 5'8. It's all about confidence and technique. I used to try just hanging off but to get it properly you need to swivel around the tank which in turn moves your butt right off the seat, bar half a cheek. I learnt from a hardened racer!
Here is me on my favourite left hander, this should explain the left slider wear!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...21744922224399

Luckypants 23-05-07 11:05 AM

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Video link broke. :(

DanAbnormal 23-05-07 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1194488)
Video link broke. :(

hmm, works for me..

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...21744922224399

Luckypants 23-05-07 12:40 PM

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I get

"
We're sorry, but this video may not be available.

Try refreshing the page to see this video."

:smt102

Jase22 23-05-07 12:54 PM

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Nice work, I could do with one of those sweeping lefties near me!!

lukemillar 23-05-07 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwakadan (Post 1194484)
Nope, I'm 5'8. It's all about confidence and technique. I used to try just hanging off but to get it properly you need to swivel around the tank which in turn moves your butt right off the seat, bar half a cheek.

Hmmm, I guess what ever works, but I have always read/been told to keep your spine parallel with the bike and move off to the right or left. If you swivel around the tank then it pushes your inside leg forward rather than out. Then again none of this has been taught with the purpose of getting my knee down - more body position and mass position when going through a corner - knee down is just a result of getting that right

Colby 23-05-07 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwakadan (Post 1194484)
Nope, I'm 5'8. It's all about confidence and technique. I used to try just hanging off but to get it properly you need to swivel around the tank which in turn moves your butt right off the seat, bar half a cheek. I learnt from a hardened racer!
Here is me on my favourite left hander, this should explain the left slider wear!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...21744922224399

I know where that is..... An "industrial estate that is based in the south"?

DanAbnormal 23-05-07 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Colby (Post 1194640)
I know where that is..... An "industrial estate that is based in the south"?

:-dd :smt077

Try this link if you can't see the other vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMJD1vVoNI4

Tomcat 24-05-07 10:46 AM

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What a lovely corner !

Colby 24-05-07 11:08 AM

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That corner is actually going down hill from left to right too. There is a right hander going the other way (obviously) that looks good too. But there are BIG kerbs (the kind that stop lorries going over them) lining the other side of the road.

Gonna have a play there this evening i think....

John 675 30-05-07 03:48 PM

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does look like your right leg to me IMO lol, because your other leg appears to be on the right from the front on view lol, :)

mister c 30-05-07 07:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keithd (Post 1193287)
do you feel better for it?

i dont see the obsession myself, and riding in a hacked off mood is a recipe for disaster in my humble.

still, if it flicks ya switch and all that, fair play.

I agree. :):):):):)

Quiff Wichard 01-06-07 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by keithd (Post 1193287)
do you feel better for it?

i dont see the obsession myself, and riding in a hacked off mood is a recipe for disaster in my humble.

still, if it flicks ya switch and all that, fair play.

first sensible thing I read from u keith !..


same opinion..

well done if it floats yer boat- but I have chicken strips and am not ashamed..

Quiff Wichard 01-06-07 08:34 PM

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that looks like a vid Matt Sv posted a year ago!???


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