At least the Irish have the guts
 

To say no to a united states of Europe.


Will our government stand by its promises to let the British people have a choice. No they are gutless toadies of an unwanted european superstate.


Europe was sold to the British people as a trading organisation, free movement of goods and services between members. Not a bureaucratic monolith hell bent on interfering on all aspects of life within Britain.

It is Europe who state the minimum VAT that can be charged on Fuel. Europe who dictates what we can cannot buy. Europe that says it is illegal to buy outside of Europe for sale in Europe. That is not fair trade. It is restriction on trade etc.

Lisbon treaty or a constitution who cares. The sooner we take back britain for the british, the happier this country will be.

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So we are not likely to see young Tim adding a fetching blue T shirt,with lots of gold stars on it to his dapper wardrobe then?

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See typical. How pretentious is it for an organisation that was sold to us as a "Common Market" to even have a flag. Never mind demanding its presence on our passports etc.

Even my English driving license has got an EEC flag on it. I don't want to sell my licence so what has it to do with the common market

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Timwilky for president!!

I was very pleased when i heard on the news that the Irish have said no.

However, this doesn't mean that the treaty won't go ahead (and simply ignore Ireland). Wouldn't be the first time the EU machine did something similar.

Options for the EU now:
- Scrap the treaty (yea, right, ok, whatever).
- Amend the treaty to account for the no votes.
- Order Ireland to have another referendum.
- Push on ahead & exclude Ireland from the treaty.

I hope they do the last of those. Ireland has some nice roads too...

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well done to the Irish

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When I collected my last company car I instructed the dealers to change the reg plates for ones that didn't have the EU blue flag on them. I had to go back the next day and collect the car cos they couldn't make them on the spot.

There's no way I was driving any motor with that crap on it.

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Sorry to seem a bit slow but... whats happened? Is there a link to the news on bbc or whatever?

Cheers.

Re: At least the Irish have the guts
 

Take alook here: http://news.google.com/news?q=Irelan...-revision&cd=3

Basically, the Irish have said "No" to the Lisbon Treaty in their referendum. You know, the one we were promised but will probably never have...

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Ahhh yes. Its rediculous that our country calls its self a Democracy and cant give the people the vote on this crap. Why cant brown do anything right!?

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Forgive me for posing what might seem a ridiculous question. But how many of those slamming the treaty actually have any REAL knowledge of what it means and the changes that it includes? And how is it perceived that the changes put forward are likely to encroach unfairly upon the citizens of any member state?

This link might help educate:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6901353.stm

On the surface I do not PERSONALLY see a whole lot to be screaming objection about. I am though prepared to be enlightened. I might just be missing some valid reasons.