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dizzyblonde 15-10-07 08:25 PM

Avon Storms
 
Today i got rid of the god awful Metzler Sportec jobbies, every lump, groove and over banding i rode over, the ass end would flap about-and yes the pressures were fine. They really didn't give me a lot of confidence which was difficult to contend with through France in the rain and even worse when I got back so..........
Avon Azaro's are on the yellow one so it was only natural to go with the upgraded version, as they are superb......

Man in garage said be careful for the first hundred mile or so, but, it didn't matter as they were perfect from the off, no wobbles, a load of confidence and I could lean into corners for the first time in 6 months, without feeling i'd fall off. A hundred and one lumps bumps and overbanding( that stuff they glue round the patches on the road with) and not a wobble in sight
so i'd give them a massive thumbs up:thumright::thumright:. some may not be so keen to recommend, but if you want a tyre that is good in all weathers, and sticks to road well and last they're ace

yorkie_chris 16-10-07 11:24 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
I like mine, feel fairly confident in them to within about 5mm of the edge, the few times I have poked them with a stick by hitting manhole covers and the like they have caught grip again in a progressive way, very controllable.

So far 3000 miles, and I reckon they are about halfway past the 1mm bars where the road hazard warranty expires.

My local shop says if I have to use the warranty on them then the tyre from avon is free and it will be £12 for him to fit it inc valve stem and balancing

Well chuffed with them all in all and will be back for another set when these start to show canvas


Chris

yeti46 12-11-07 05:48 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
what are the prices like for the storms if you don't mind me asking?

dizzyblonde 12-11-07 08:54 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
£180 fitted....and they're super in this weather too

Pedro68 13-11-07 01:56 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
+1 for the Avon Storm :) had one on the rear until just before my BT021's and was very happy with it ... however, I can't emphasise just how much of difference it has made to my confidence in having front and rear changed at same time.

Previously was on stock front and Avon Storm rear ... and although it felt better than stock front + rear, it still didn't inspire enough confidence in me. However, since sticking BT021's on front + rear ... I'm much much happier :)

Stig 13-11-07 02:23 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
I've just had these fitted front and rear on the Dullsville. I had Diablo's fitted before which I thought worked quite well in the wet. The Storm ST tyres are extremely good. Very good grip in the wet. I was surprised how much grip there was. I haven't yet got to the edge of traction so will reserve judgement as to how much warning they give.

Was looking for something that would give me higher mileage as it will be doing nothing but going up and down the motorway. It's the winter commuting hack. Wasn't impressed with the price so hope the quote of high mileage is true. So far, very impressed.

yorkie_chris 13-11-07 02:25 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Mine so far have 3000 miles under them and there must be about 0.5mm of tread worn off them, they look like they'll be there a while.
Then again your results may vary, mine aren't exactly stressed with a mighty 33bhp on them...

STRAMASHER 02-12-07 11:35 AM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Think I am going to go for Storms. Set of tyres right before Xmas, right before the 15,000 mile service and my front pads are goosed. KER-CHING!!:(:rolleyes:.

Was wondering if anybody had used them on the SV. Good to know there has been some guinea-pigs!:)

Have been on Vipers for a year, maybe half a mm. away from the wear indicators on both aty the moment but have just calculated mileage at 1600 for a rear and 7,000 for a front.Horrendous !#-o:( £197 fitted and balanced for a set.

Never found them lacking in grip so very confidence inspiring to really thrash the thing when its nice and dry, but if i am honest they are wasted in the wet and on my daily commute (mostly wet;):D). A bit too good for my tired front forks too.

Hoping the Storms on the lightweight SV will be as good as they are on GSX14 (3-5k on a rear). Looking to get at least double on the rear than the Vipers.

Anybody got prices fitted and balanced for Storms? Something to aim for.:)

Cheers.

yorkie_chris 02-12-07 01:06 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
About £180

Stig 02-12-07 01:19 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Yup that's around what I paid.

Laverda 3ce 03-12-07 01:28 AM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STRAMASHER (Post 1355946)



Anybody got prices fitted and balanced for Storms? Something to aim for.:)

Cheers.

Give Craig a ring at Stathearn Tyres in Crieff # 01764 654697
Had a set fitted there in Aug. to Blackbird, but reciept is for £280 as included rear BT020 for wifes bike.
How you doing, met up on run to St.Marys loch with Thumper in 2004. :smt006

STRAMASHER 03-12-07 07:46 AM

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Cheers for that fella. Strathern have a very good rep.

That was one of the few GSX runs that did not end with somebody in a ditch!!:D


Andy

:thumright:

Aidan 03-12-07 01:49 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
What tyre pressure do you run these at? According to my tyre fitter (Ride in bike tyres in Reading) they should be at something like 40/42psi, whereas normal tyres are more like 33/36psi? I've tried both pressures and the tyres feel fine, but I want to run the tyres for as long as possible.

Otherwise they're great tyres and I'm happy that I seem to have got a great deal - £165 fitted to loose wheels!:D

Luckypants 03-12-07 01:51 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Avon say 36 / 42 psi on their tyres.

Stig 03-12-07 05:28 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
I have them on the Dullsville so can't compare directly. But they do a have higher pressure than 'standard'. The dullsville has 42/46, the Diablo Strada's that were fitted before were at 36/42.

Stig 03-12-07 05:31 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Mark at Ride In Tyres in Reading pretty much knows his tyres. As he should do being a fitter. He's always got my pressures spot on and never asked what they should be. :thumleft:

Don't forget though, that to a degree, tyre pressures are pretty much a personal choice.

embee 15-12-07 03:39 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Quite a lot of Deauville riders are recommending the Storms on the forum. Seems to be a general thumbs up for them. Haven't heard a bad word yet.

yorkie_chris 15-12-07 03:53 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1356775)
Avon say 36 / 42 psi on their tyres.

Do they?

I emailed them, they reccommended 33/36

Luckypants 15-12-07 10:52 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1356775)
Avon say 36 / 42 psi on their tyres.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1366223)
Do they?

I emailed them, they reccommended 33/36

OK - I was going by this from main site and those pressures worked well for me. But this on the Avon site makes a liar of me, so Chris looks like you are right...

yorkie_chris 16-12-07 02:18 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Well, I know alot of people play around with pressures.

What difference would you expect from upping the pressure?

Stig 16-12-07 03:36 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1366603)
Well, I know alot of people play around with pressures.

What difference would you expect from upping the pressure?

Depends on the bike, how the suspension is set up etc...

Standard pressures are a generic. Not a specific.

Alpinestarhero 17-12-07 02:40 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Upping the pressure would make everything feel a bit harder; might feel harsher at low speeds, might feel a bit more flighty at higher speeds. Porbably increased "feel", and perhaps reduced grip to to descreased size of contact patch, although this is arguable.

Likewise, if you drop the pressures, the bike feels smoother at low speed, maybe a bit wallowy at high speed, and heavier to turn in. Potentialy more grip from larger contact area but again this depends, since there is more movement in the tyre.

Matt

northwind 02-01-08 07:06 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Also, higher pressures make the tyre take longer to heat up, as it flexes less.

Tyre pressures are odd, frinstance I always ran Roadtecs and Stradas at 3psi more than stock front and rear- both tyres had this sort of weird shimmy thing that they'd sometimes do when turning hard, which goes away at higher pressure and gets absolutely horrendous at lower pressures. I dropped them on the advice of an "expert" at a trackday to 30/33 and they were rotten, they felt really disconnected. Put them back up to my normal and went faster. At 36/39 they feel similiar to how Sportecs feel at 33/36, which I think is down to carcass stiffness.

yorkie_chris 02-01-08 07:09 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Comparison is everything in tyres, and I can now tell you that a 180 pilot sport, squared off rear at 38psi with a storm ST front at 33, works, but feels absolutely f###ing horrible.

It squirms, drops in, fidgets, wallows and other such nefarious activites.

But it was free, and I can't get a new avon till tomorrow. Such is life :p

STRAMASHER 09-01-08 12:11 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Storms fitted and balanced for £195 local National Tyres. (33/36PSI)

Nice to have a deep bit of tread again, just in time for the monsoon we are getting up here the past couple of days.



Definite firmer ride than the Vipers. Hopefully they will get to see a dry country rode before they get squared off!

:)

Lozzo 09-01-08 04:32 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/120-60ZR17-160...QQcmdZViewItem

Take loose wheels in and the guys in the fitting shop next door fit them for a tenner each. That's where I go for my tyres.

Stig 09-01-08 05:46 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Typical. Doesn't do the deal for a pair to fit the Dullsville. :roll:

I do have him marked down now as a favourite seller though. :thumleft: :cool:

northwind 09-01-08 09:09 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
That's where I got my stupidly cheap roadtecs too. Stock seems to come and go but the prices are brilliant.

Luckypants 13-03-08 11:51 AM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Decided to get a pair of these for the Viffer, because I like Avons as a rule.

£210 ride in / out service at Buckley Tyres

£183 fitted to loose wheels at local tyre place

£145 delivered from RoundandBlack and £5 per wheel fitted at above local place.

Take it to the local tyre place? They do cars mainly but have seen a few bikes there. Any idea if the kit used to fit bike tyres is different to car tyres? Will they wreck my rims?

Luckypants 25-03-08 11:38 AM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Got my Storms fitted and have been mighty pleased with the 400 miles so far. The rear looks fat for a 180 so I think it looks trick (for a VFR). Lets see how they perform next 500 miles :D

yorkie_chris 25-03-08 04:13 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
The 160 on mine looked fatter than the norm. fatter than the 160 supercorsa on it now.

The rear one I've jsut taken off is nearly done, maybe 1.5mm left on it, but it still gripped and handles really well, good enough that my last jaunt down into wales took the chicken strip down to meybe 5mm.

It's done around 7000 miles, which isn't to be sniffed at for a rear thats done mostly commuting.

Luckypants 31-03-08 11:59 AM

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Well after this weekend NW3 run out, the Storms are ace. Rock solid in torrential rain. In the dry grip like a sticky thing on a sticky thing and when they let go, hook up again with no drama. Well happy with these! :smt038

neio79 31-03-08 02:07 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1461471)
Well after this weekend NW3 run out, the Storms are ace. Rock solid in torrential rain, grip like a sticky thing on a sticky thing and when they let go, hook up again with no drama. Well happy with these! :smt038

so they are good in the wet, what about the dry?? after my 0-15 shocking performance in the wet i am tempted by these as long as they are good ans sticky in the dry as well, either that ot a set of their Viper sport ones

Luckypants 31-03-08 02:13 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neio79 (Post 1461576)
so they are good in the wet, what about the dry?? after my 0-15 shocking performance in the wet i am tempted by these as long as they are good ans sticky in the dry as well, either that ot a set of their Viper sport ones

Ask the rest of the crew, especially Jamessunhill as he was following close all that afternoon....... Was a small group after Sunday lunch and we gave it some stick. Basically as much tyre as I need I think, make up your own mind about how much that is (you've seen me ride).

neio79 31-03-08 02:20 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1461582)
Ask the rest of the crew, especially Jamessunhill as he was following close all that afternoon....... Was a small group after Sunday lunch and we gave it some stick. Basically as much tyre as I need I think, make up your own mind about how much that is (you've seen me ride).

true, you are quite slow........;) joking, you are far far better than me so if they can cope with your riding they will handle mine. Idealy i would love a very sticky tyre in the dry and warm but that is almost as good i nthe wet. the OE 0-15's are just not that at all,

they are bloody goodd in the dry, as i was up with you top 5 or 6 on the sunday compared to tip toeing on the sat afternoon.

melody 31-03-08 04:08 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Thumbs up for the Avon Storms from me too.


After the rubbish I had for tyres, I could feel a remarkable difference in the Avons.:smt038

dizzyblonde 31-03-08 04:19 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Neio they're as good in the dry as they are in the wet.

The storms do exactly what they say on the tin....sports/touring tyre....you feel like your riding on rails, they don't take too long to warm up either, once stuck they stick like sticky flies on fly paper. Granted the Azaros on Suze were the ones before the storms, but even with my naff riding, they kept me on the road. However i do have the storms on the black bike, and...................gawd I sound like a tyre saleswoman,,,lol

Drew Carey 02-04-08 06:20 PM

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All.......quick question, what do you think will last longer.....the Storms or Z6's?

As some may know from NW I am on my stock tyres and have got to 6000 miles. I commute daily 20 miles each way but its all lovely A38 twisties.....so I think can probably puch another 1500 out of the stocks. But, what with the summer and the AR coming up I am saving and looking now.

yorkie_chris 02-04-08 06:24 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
I've had 7k, mostly commuting out of a rear. It's still got life in it yet, and still handles really well.

Drew Carey 02-04-08 06:53 PM

Re: Avon Storms
 
Thats good to know. Think I will go with the Avons as not only does everyone rate them but like the fact they have a guarantee on them at the start. When I started riding had a puncture in the first 1500 miles.


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