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embee 24-01-21 02:56 PM

Neonicotinoids
 
Just when you think it's about as bad as it can get, some s**t-for-brains f**kwit in Westminster thinks it'd be a good idea to wipe out the insects.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...eat-sugar-beet
Thank heavens we've left the EU and can now wreak carnage in our own green and pleasant land by reintroducing banned poisons to kill off the remainder of the bee population. Oh joy.
:smt076:smt076:smt076

Seeker 24-01-21 04:07 PM

Re: Neonicotinoids
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by embee (Post 3124759)
Just when you think it's about as bad as it can get, some s**t-for-brains f**kwit in Westminster thinks it'd be a good idea to wipe out the insects.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...eat-sugar-beet
Thank heavens we've left the EU and can now wreak carnage in our own green and pleasant land by reintroducing banned poisons to kill off the remainder of the bee population. Oh joy.
:smt076:smt076:smt076

I wrote to my MP (for what it's worth) a couple of weeks ago about this expressing my alarm - especially since BoZo had said we wouldn't use it - I know, I know - a Tory breaking his word, shocking.

Whilst I'm not defending the government, the EU have been a bit duplicitous about this too. They announced a ban a while back but didn't announce there were exceptions that could be applied:
https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/202...-ban-loophole/

embee 24-01-21 04:10 PM

Re: Neonicotinoids
 
In that case, a plague on all their houses.

Red Herring 24-01-21 04:17 PM

Re: Neonicotinoids
 
I listened to an interesting interview on the radio about this the other day. The basic facts presented were that a greenfly has decimated around 80% of the UK sugar production this year and this measure is necessary to halt this. Around 50% of the UK's sugar demand is home grown.

So the options were....

Reduce our sugar demand by around 40%.

Import more sugar to fill the gap.

Increase our sugar production five fold so we can carry an 80% loss of yield..........

Use the dreaded chemical......


I'm guessing you don't like the last option, so do you support one of the others or is there an alternative I've missed?

Grant66 24-01-21 05:17 PM

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I'm kind of liking the "use less sugar" option.


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embee 24-01-21 05:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Herring (Post 3124764)
I listened to an interesting interview on the radio about this the other day. The basic facts presented were that a greenfly has decimated around 80% of the UK sugar production this year and this measure is necessary to halt this. .....

Presumably that was as reported here?
https://www.ragus.co.uk/uk-sugar-beet-harvest-2020/

DJ123 24-01-21 05:58 PM

Re: Neonicotinoids
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant66 (Post 3124765)
I'm kind of liking the "use less sugar" option.


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My guess is the less natural sugar would = more chemicals/additives as replacements.

Red Herring 24-01-21 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by embee (Post 3124766)
Presumably that was as reported here?
https://www.ragus.co.uk/uk-sugar-beet-harvest-2020/


Not seen that and it does seem to rather suggest there isn't a problem....

I'm not an expert on this, I simply heard an interview about it on the radio whilst I was working in the garage the other day and the person explaining the case for the use of the chemical made a far better job of it than the person complaining about it. Now it may have been that it was an unfair match but one would like to think they wouldn't get away with exaggerating the problem to the extent that that linked article suggests?

Red Herring 24-01-21 06:34 PM

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https://www.ragus.co.uk/emergency-ne...horisation-uk/


But this report, from the same source as the one in the previous post seems to explain the circumstances and justifications.

Craig380 24-01-21 07:43 PM

Re: Neonicotinoids
 
We obviously need more ladybirds, but not those foreign chlamydia-infected ones ;)


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