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declares independence.. discuss

I've always liked that Cerys Matthews

Power to them. They came, they discussed, they done. If folk didn't want it, they should have put their mark in the box, illegitimate referendum or not.

May quieten Spain about Gibraltar while they are having this crisis. Another thing for EU to worry about. Send in the Junkers to sort them out, he will drink them into submission, Catalonia need to talk about the divorce bill before discussing independence.

Idealists vs realists.

Kind of rings a bell.

These things always end in tears.

With 7.5 million people, 25% of Spanish industry and producing about 20% of Spanish GDP Catalonia is crucial to Spain, especially when British tourism starts to dry up in southern parts of Spain as a result of lower value of £ and possible travel restriction after the 'B' event in 2019.

Catalonia has the clout to go it alone, unlike some other wannabee independent colonies LOL.

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Originally Posted by embee (Post 3078840)

Idealists vs realists.

Kind of rings a bell.

These things always end in tears.

:cry:
Sad but true.
Lots of silly men waving their willys about and pretending to have simple answers to complex questions.
It does ring a bell doesnt it?

Don't want to worry any of you but since Madrid said no it seems the Catalans have decided to declare Piccadilly Circus independent instead...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4481/...d2d4c4fc_z.jpg Catalonia annexes Eros by Trevor Laight, on Flickr

Canvey Island is also considering taking the same action.

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I'm waiting to see what Madrid does if the promised fresh elections give a majority to the independence party. There are some interesting possibilities:

Big majority for remainers - independence party disputes results (I would see this as rather suspect too) and it all descends into a decade of political strife.
Small majority for remainers - great news for Madrid, politically this is their ideal result and it could happen.
Small majority for independence party - IMO the most likely result. Not a great basis for pushing on with independence, but Madrid can 'compromise' and devolve a few more powers to the region or make a fight of it claiming that it's looking after the interests of the other forty-something percent of the population.
Big majority for independence party - much more likely after heavy handed police actions. This is the real kicker, what does Madrid do if the Catalans re-elect Puigdemont with a clear mandate??

If I were a wily Spanish politician I'd be preparing to discuss the details of independence, with a view to tying them up in at least a decade of negotiations...

Just my thoughts,

Keith