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Owenski 02-10-09 10:12 PM

*urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Just had a text from a work mate telling me to change all passwords if they are the same as my hotmail one ASAP. Apparetly there has been a set of documents leaked which contain all usernames and passwords for hotmail. Not sure what to make of it tbh, anyone else heard anything?

TSM 02-10-09 10:16 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
doubt they store the password as cleartext in their DB, usualy it will be hashed

Owenski 02-10-09 10:18 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
this bloke is a pretty big geek, he's always talking about the side of PC's I know nothing about. You echo my initial reaction but then again other than OS based software I know nothing about a computer.

gruntygiggles 02-10-09 10:32 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
I change my passwords for everything every other month anyway. Because I've been the victim of some serious ID theft and fraud, I got into the habit. Luckily I have a really good memory for things like this as I have no plan for passwords. I literally change them to use something that I can see, have seen or heard that day, something completely random and pick numbers off my lotto tickets at random to add to them. No-one would stand a chance of guessing any! The only one I don't change is the one for this forum as I don't see the point.

Baph 02-10-09 11:08 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Urban myth started by the actions of "Croll" against Twitter.

Nothing more than a social engineering exercise, which is why I refuse to refer to "Croll" with their self appointed name. :)

Sally 02-10-09 11:53 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
bbarstewards.mn **** em all

Alpinestarhero 03-10-09 08:49 AM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Well someone might get into my facebook, maybe log in on here as me and on to bikersoracle as me.

not much info about me on the winternet anyway :rave:

Owenski 03-10-09 10:02 AM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 2051002)
Urban myth started by the actions of "Croll" against Twitter.

Nothing more than a social engineering exercise, which is why I refuse to refer to "Croll" with their self appointed name. :)

thats all I could find anything about when i googled it, so im happy not to wrry... for now lol

Kinvig 05-10-09 03:38 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
I discounted this as normally companies only store a hash of the password using something similar to sha1 encryption.

So, imagine my surprise when I read:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8291268.stm

Alpinestarhero 05-10-09 03:40 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
oh no

I found a pool of liquid under my password this morning

:flower:

DarrenSV650S 05-10-09 03:47 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
How do you change your hotmail password? Can't find it

keith_d 05-10-09 03:50 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 2053487)
How do you change your hotmail password? Can't find it

Post it on the forum - we'll change it for you!! :smt096

DarrenSV650S 05-10-09 03:55 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
ok it's 456keithdisablend789 ;)

No seriously, I can't find it :(

sunshine 05-10-09 04:02 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
it should say options on the page, reversing an encription on db is easy. so looks like they can log on to my hotmail account then there stuck there. every password is different and a pattern so they cant trace anything about my passwords else where.

Kinvig 05-10-09 04:05 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshine (Post 2053507)
it should say options on the page, reversing an encription on db is easy.

Not everyone uses the same methods to encrypt.

sha1 is pretty robust. I normally hash the password with another piece of data, then hash the hashed value for good measure.

Razor 05-10-09 04:36 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
*waves hand* these are not the passwords you're looking for...

Dave20046 05-10-09 04:53 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Took too long to find, found a nice option called 'marketing preferences' : 'tick this box of you want microsoft to F off'

TSM 05-10-09 05:48 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinvig (Post 2053513)
Not everyone uses the same methods to encrypt.

sha1 is pretty robust. I normally hash the password with another piece of data, then hash the hashed value for good measure.

the normal way is to hash the username & password together, well thats nix way from what i remember

i somtimes hash it with the IP address & session_id if i want a temporary password, many diffrent ways
passwords in DB are usualy not done with a master seed though, if you loose that then you are stuffed

Warthog 05-10-09 09:06 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
I think someone has gotten my org password, I keep seeing posts by me with useless information and rubbish jokes.

TSM 05-10-09 09:07 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Warthog (Post 2054025)
I think someone has gotten my org password, I keep seeing posts by me with useless information and rubbish jokes.

naa, ive confirmed its you, sure you remember who you are :p

Kinvig 06-10-09 11:20 AM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
[tech derail]


Quote:

Originally Posted by TSM (Post 2053691)
the normal way is to hash the username & password together, well thats nix way from what i remember

Yup, I hash using either username or email address. It's the one time on a website that I'll use javascript for "core" functionality as I don't want an unhashed pwd gonig back & forth between server & client.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSM (Post 2053691)
i somtimes hash it with the IP address & session_id if i want a temporary password, many diffrent ways
passwords in DB are usualy not done with a master seed though, if you loose that then you are stuffed

You can't always rely on a client's browser maintaining 1 ip address for its session. Apps such as AOL seem to let the AOL browser use a roaming/floating ip address range - hence all the issues that you get with AOL users.

[/tech derail]

TSM 06-10-09 11:23 AM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinvig (Post 2054585)
[tech derail]




Yup, I hash using either username or email address. It's the one time on a website that I'll use javascript for "core" functionality as I don't want an unhashed pwd gonig back & forth between server & client.



You can't always rely on a client's browser maintaining 1 ip address for its session. Apps such as AOL seem to let the AOL browser use a roaming/floating ip address range - hence all the issues that you get with AOL users.

[/tech derail]

This is true, but if you check for the proxy header, you should be able then able to change the hasing method. If all else fails, i usualy make it possable disable bind to ip.

Owenski 06-10-09 11:40 AM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -KINGVIG-TSM (Post 2054590)
Bla bla bla tech'y bolarx bla bla bla mind melted, now cream pie'd

lol, Im sure it made perfect sense to you guys but that totally went over my head rofl.

Warthog 06-10-09 12:42 PM

Re: *urgent* anyone else heard about the password leak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TSM (Post 2054028)
naa, ive confirmed its you, sure you remember who you are :p

I'm Spiderman aren't I? :-P


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