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ManMango 19-06-14 06:02 PM

Caberg Duke
 
I started with just a cheap lid but now going on to a bigger bike I need to upgrade.

I was looking at the Caberg Duke (In white) retails for £144~ and can be picked up easily from Sportbikeshop / amazon etc
http://www.caberg.it/caberg_caschi_c...K&color=MW&p=1

- 5* Sharp safety rating: http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/caberg-duke
- Flip up + P/J approved (can be ridden flipped open)
- Weighs only 1.5kg (light for a flip up right?!)
- Antiscratch/anti fog visor which is rubber sealed
- Pin lock ready (pin lock insert also included, normally £20-£30)
- Drop down tinted internal visor
- Really good big front vent system
- Fully removeable/washable liner/chin guard and space for intercom
- Wind noise meant to be really low which Caberg and known and pride themselves on.
- BADASS shape!
- The list does continue xd

It seems to tick ALL boxes for me! and I am bemused why everyone doesn't own one xd

I was wondering if anyone does own one and can share their thoughts? Is it comfortable, does it feel quality, is the tinted visor dark enough? you know stuff that statistics don't cover :)

littleoldman2 19-06-14 07:27 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I've got one, only had it since March. Done a bit over 4000 miles so far and all good. Don't be afraid to get one a little tight as mine has loosened up nicely to a good fit. I don't use the pin lock so cannot comment except that it looks good enough quality wise.
The drop down visor is as good as most, it does not fully retract so is always visible if you look up. It is easy to operate with the lever being big and easy to find.
Noise wise it is acceptable to good, I often use it without my custom made ear plugs.
More important to me is the day long comfort which is good, 970 miles over the Easter weekend and I hardly noticed it. Wind resistance is also good, so you don't feel like your head is being pulled off. All in all you notice it very little , which has to be good as anything that distracts you from the job in hand isn't.

CharleyFarley 20-06-14 08:29 AM

Caberg Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by littleoldman2 (Post 2963127)
The drop down visor is as good as most, it does not fully retract so is always visible if you look up. It is easy to operate with the lever being big and easy to find.

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Their's a final (stiff) 'click' on mine to fully retract the Sun visor out of site!!

For me, its a superior lid to my Shoei....
Lighter quieter snuger comfort/fit, no thoughts on the pin-lock......its there, it works, its unobtrusive, its out of mind!!!
Capped to bits with it!!!

(Be aware if buying by post.......they measure bigger than other helmets.....
med Caberg = lrg Shoei/Aria!!!!)
I bought mine of this forum and lucked out size/fit/comfort wise!!



"Gas it w###a".........

CharleyFarley 20-06-14 10:46 AM

Caberg Duke
 
BIG plus......dont get helmet lift at 'silly speed' with the Duke ('skirt' under chin bar?) which I do with the Shoei, n the Shoei's a tighter fit!!!


"Gas it w###a".........

bat-kam 20-06-14 10:49 AM

Caberg Duke
 
I had one. One problem i had with it was the pinlock. It did not want to create a seal with the maim visor right in the middle where you breath.
I tried adjusting the pins on both sides but the pinlock kept popping back out

ManMango 20-06-14 01:01 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Good feedback just what I was after.

The internal visor being visible does concern me slightly but I don't think would be enough to put me off. Although it sounds like some do and some don't move completely up? :S

I would prefer to purchase in store but have to find one that sells Caberg first! I did think the large size in CM seemed a bit big to be honest so really want to find a store! (I'm in Hertfordshire, anyone know any good retailers near me?)

Any issues with the pinlock doesn't upset me too much, having it is a bonus I think the fact it is included doesn't reflect the price anyway!

CharleyFarley 20-06-14 01:31 PM

Caberg Duke
 
They are very good noise wise......I've never used ear plugs, n the Caberg is the 'quietest' lid I've owned!!
First time out I nearly shat my self.........40 mph built up area, Police traffic car shot past me about 120mph all bells/whistles/lights going n I didn't hear it till it was right on my @rse/passing me!!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/20/zypy6a8e.jpg
Nice in matt bkack!!



"Gas it w###a".........

_Stretchie_ 20-06-14 02:16 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I have an old Caberg Justissimo GT. It's the only flip lid I've had so can't compare it to others, it's not quiet and it does hamper your lifesavers a bit but it's a good helmet. I may have a look at this Duke one, I really should get a new lid

ManMango 20-06-14 03:48 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I am not particularly after a flip up lid but I first stumbled on the Duke when I saw it on Sharp rating as 5* so looked further in to it.

Am I really sacrificing visibility with getting a flip up? does a flip up mean I have a much bigger chin area and less view up/down and side/side?

I mean there is no point in having a 5* safety rating if its going to cause you to miss something in your blind spot and cause a crash!!!

bat-kam 20-06-14 03:58 PM

Caberg Duke
 
If you are after big visibility and flip up helmet get nolan n104evo. Massive field of view and well built.

ManMango 20-06-14 05:24 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I don't know if I am after big visibility, I am new to all this :P at the moment I own a £30 lid from Amazon 'Shox sniper' haha.

My budget started at £100 really and was looking at HJC TR1 then moved on to HJC IS-17 (both HJC's I would have been compromising some things on) then saw this Caberg one, flip up for me is just an added bonus so don't want to get this 'added bonus' if it will impede on the important stuff... Safety and visibility.

_Stretchie_ 20-06-14 10:40 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ManMango (Post 2963309)
I am not particularly after a flip up lid but I first stumbled on the Duke when I saw it on Sharp rating as 5* so looked further in to it.

Am I really sacrificing visibility with getting a flip up? does a flip up mean I have a much bigger chin area and less view up/down and side/side?

I mean there is no point in having a 5* safety rating if its going to cause you to miss something in your blind spot and cause a crash!!!

My Caberg Justissimo GT looks alot bigger than this Duke and as I said before it does make lifesaver more difficult but I've been using it for years with no ill effect and it has not made me sloppy on lifesavers, it's just the trade off you make but if it helps I am definitely considering this Duke helmet myself and looking to find a local shop with stock so I can try it.

_Stretchie_ 15-09-14 09:49 AM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I got a Duke in white last week.

Verdict - LOVE IT

The first thing I noticed was less visibility due to a smaller visor, but that is compensated as it is alot smaller than my Justissimo and I can now do a shoulder check with the Duke. That is not to say there is little visibility, there is definitely enough, it's just that the Justissimo was like an Imax screen.

It is so much quieter too. I do notice wind noise coming in when I slightly tilt my head to check mirrors, it comes in at the top corners where the black plastic is that the visor clips into but it's not a problem.

Overall, it's bloody good, good fit, I can now do a decent shoulder check, it's quiet and it draws more air through it than the justissimo.

The only thing that's missing is a gold label on the back that says you can use it on track. But it's £145 and a bloody good helmet.

ManMango 15-09-14 09:35 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Oh yeah forgot to post on this. I did go for the duke in the end and I am very happy with it.

Amazingly light for a front flip. Very sturdy and high quality feel about it.

As I read in some reviews my chin can touch the inside of the helmet but its in no way uncomfortable. It will only ever touch no pressure at all. It does this so that it can tuck the chin right round and under. Giving you much less noise leaking in the bottom and a more aggressive look.

A friend who has purchased more helmets than myself had a look and said the pinlock (that comes with it) is very good compared to some.

Very happy and will defo buy Caberg again.

atassiedevil 07-11-14 06:46 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Although this is a thread revival, i've also just bought one of these.

VERY very impressed with it, massively quieter than my last lid, and the only negative i can find is one that has already been flagged by others, peripheral vision is slightly reduced, but you can still do shoulder checks just fine.

Before my better half couldn't hear me over the intercom at over 50mph, now she can hear me clearly at most speeds.

So impressed i am going to buy her one too. Definitely like the pinlock, but it doesn't stop my glasses steaming up, but what would?

Would i buy another? hell yes.

littleoldman2 07-11-14 10:14 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I've now had mine for over 13000 mile since march. The helmet now feels a just a little to big so will be replacing the lining over winter. The shell is a single size so the lining is the only difference in helmet size. I've confirmed this with the importers. I may go for a small as opposed to a medium liner so it beds in to a better fit.
Still well happy.

_Stretchie_ 03-03-15 03:59 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
So, I've had the Duke for 6 months now and it's still a belter.

It whistles when doing a shoulder check and I need to adjust the pinlock but the pins don't want to move, on my old AVG the pinlock had a slot in it like a screw so you could use a screw driver to adjust it but on this the pin is a dome on both sides so I am going to have to try it with pliers tonight.

But that's the only things I can find wrong with it.

I still love it to bits

Adam Ef 04-01-16 09:41 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I've been pleased with my Caberg Duke. It was a choice between that or a non-flip-up HJC or AGV both of which I liked, but fit wasn't right on them. The Duke has been really comfortable. Closes up tighter when the front is slipped down and fits my head perfectly.

I've never noticed the sun shade visor causing problems when up, and rarely use it as I've found it to be a bit distorting and wobbly to look through. Useful to have there as a back up though if I ever find myself on a long journey towards the sun and forget sunglasses.

I did have a moment once where the slider on the side that locks the flip up front in the up position or allows it back down went a bit funny and kept locking it up even when in the other position meant to allow it down. Not happened again since though.

I wasn't necessarily after a flip-up, but reveiws were good, safety rating is supposed to be good and price is good for the decent quality that it seems to be. And above all very comfortable and a good fit (although that will be different for everyone -- as always, try on before you buy) . Pin lock insert worked well for me too last winter.

Swin 07-01-16 09:27 AM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
This thread is perfect timing for me, my Justissimo is going to be replaced this year and I was planning on going for a Duke, glad to hear that Caberg are keeping up their standards

TheWeeSteev 07-01-16 12:30 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I've been running around with the Caberg Duke legend for a year now and it's been great, through all seasons. To be honest though I used to just buy really basic helmets as I rode 125cc's on my commute.

I got the lovely matt black with fluorescent stripe and would definitely recommend this, I'll be going for a Caberg Duke again when the time comes.


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...JL._SY450_.jpg

K5Rider 22-03-16 04:14 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Another thread revival by me today !!


I have a Caberg Duke and it's pretty good for the money.


I bought medium and fits my napper well.
As others have said, chin touches the front when closed and peripheral vision isn't the best.


What I did have problems with was the amount of air rushing in at the bottom and over my mouth. This was confusing as the vents point up at the visor and the chin curtain was right under my head and I use a neck doofer so pretty much had no air gap.
Eventually I narrowed it down to the holes in the chin curtain. So I covered them over with patches from a bicycle puncture repair kit. No more excessive air...which is good when riding through winter !!


Like others, I had a bit of bother getting the pinlock to seal properly and again as others have said, the pins can't be adjusted, or at least, not by turning them as you can in the aftermarket kits. Believe it or not, they are actually in the correct position, you just have to keep lifting the pinlock and moving it up or down slightly until it seals. It will seal eventually, I promise. Took me about 10 minutes playing about.


Noise wise, I do a lot of motorway miles and at 70mph it can get a bit noisy as the wind blasts past your ears. I use custom earplugs too, but the wind noise is greater than the sound of the bike exhaust.
Again, as others have said, lifesavers seem to allow air in somehow and you get a different wind sound.


For the money it's good and it's my second Caberg helmet. This replaced an Ego last year.


I think for me though, I'll save up and get the Schuberth C3 next. I tried my pals and it was almost silent on the motorway. Bit pricey though. I'll wait till the C4 comes out to get a "bargain" !!

SV650rules 14-11-16 06:41 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
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Value for money Duke is very good, I got a white one a couple of months ago (after seeing how visible a white helmet is on other riders - and a white helmet stays cooler in the sun), bike shop fitted the pinlock and I have not had a problem with misting so far. Quieter than my AGV and less buffeting when you turn your head. Only gripe would be (and it could be my fumble fingers) is that the release button for the lifting front can be a bit challenging to find sometimes. I could happily ride my naked AL7 without earplugs until I fitted a small screen to bike, then the noise level went up, will probably take screen off during summer months. Unlike previous poster I found not enough air coming in to mouth area and I drilled couple of 6mm holes in the inner hard foam to line up with front vents, just enough air for me now (all the air seemed to be routed up across visor before and felt a bit claustrophobic without the visor open to first notch). What I like about sun visor positioning is that it is stepless and will stay in any position (sometime you don't want it fully down as you want to be able to look under lower edge to see instruments but still keep sun out of you eyes). Is very comfortable, my chin is not big enough to hit helmet unless I really make an effort to jut it out.

Safety rating and price are in no way directly connected to each other (the Duke is living proof of that). The Attached DOC file has a great graph chart of cost vs safety. Also link below to site

One thing I like about Caberg is they are made in Italy and not in the No32 peoples crash helmet factory deep in China.

http://billyscrashhelmets.co.uk/cras...-crash-helmet/

Adam Ef 22-10-18 04:53 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
I've had mine for 3 and half years now and it's got quite loose, so the lining needs replacing. Also needs a new visor really. Looking at the cost of that and have decided to try something else instead. Been quite pleased with the Duke, but have found it to be quite a large shell and heavy too. I only really realised how heavy when I tried on a few others. The vents have never seemed to work either so I've always ridden with the visor very slightly open. Not great for noise and can get cold in the winter trying to not fog up, although the pin lock does a decent job. I've still never used the sun visor. I tried to a couple of times, but it's so wobbly and distorted that it's fairly useless. I thought all brands would have visors as bad, but I tried on a Shoei GT air and the visor was really clear!



Looks like I'm going to forgoe the visor and flip up front all together as I can get a Shoei NXR for a really good price so going to give that a go. They feel amazingly light by comparison. A bit tighter (definitley tighter when new) but I've been told the Shoei pads break in a lot and they're replaceable with a size up or down too if needed.

Bibio 22-10-18 06:33 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
dont go near the GT Air.. they are schitt. cant close the visor if the chin vent is closed or the visor mists up (yes even with a pinlok), flies get through the chin vent into your eyes, its REALLY noisy, its heavy.... i could go on and on but you get the idea.

the qwest on the other hand is simply superb :-)

Adam Ef 22-10-18 06:55 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 3093855)

the qwest on the other hand is simply superb :-)


I think the Qwest is discontinued now.



The NXR is possibly the newer (although 5 years old now) version of the RF1200, which was meant to be very good too?


I was nearly swayed by the GT Air, but then decided against the sun visor wanting to kee it simple for my next helmet.


The NXR weighs about a quarter of a kilo less than the Duke!

Adam Ef 22-10-18 06:56 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Having said all that, the Duke for the money is very good.

Sir Trev 23-10-18 10:04 AM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
If you new lid comes with Pinlock fittings you can always get the light reactive one. I have had them on my last two lids and they're excellent. If you're going between sunlight and shade a lot an internal flip visor is handy for instant change but as mine reacts pretty quickly I've never had a problem. You may be able to get a better price by asking for a lid with no insert and then adding the reactive one later or see if they can upgrade the insert if already included.

karlsv 25-06-20 06:14 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Hi all, sorry to ressurrect an old thread. I have been looking at the Caberg Duke 2:

https://sharphelmetchooser.co.uk/helmet/caberg-duke-ii/

Have any of you Duke owners gone on to use one and if so what do you think?

SV650rules 25-06-20 06:44 PM

Re: Caberg Duke
 
Does tend to fog up in cooler weather - the pin lock is really a must ( no wonder it comes with helmet ) fitting seems to get looser (even when not used much like mine - as I prefer to use my AGV, I sometimes use Caberg when weather is hotter but only because it is white, ventilation is a bit pants to be honest so even then AGV better - on Caberg I drilled a few 6mm holes through inner foam in chin area to line up with the mesh inserts in front of helmet to improve airflow ). On Caberg the release button in chin guard to allow front to flip up can be a pain to find with gloves on and if I jut my chin out I can touch the chin guard - so front of helmet is close to face, that may be why visor mists up. The first click detent position on opening visor is too far open for me.

I really prefer my AGV, ventilation much better and can be turned on and off by a slide in chin guard, the visor will open just a slight amount to first detent which is good, and the fit of the AGV has not slackened off - still feels nice and snug, and as I said earlier Duke has slackened off. I have read in reviews that Caberg save money by only having one size of shell for the Duke, so that means for different sizes the inner padding has to change - which maybe means fit may slacken off.

Note - used the Caberg yesterday on hottest day of year ( so far anyway ) and although the white colour worked OK, I was still disappointed with ventilation ( even though I have removed the gubbins from the slide ventilator on top of helmet, so it is open all the time), and as I said first position on visor is too wide for me. On the plus side the helmet is reasonably quiet and does not seem to suffer from as much buffeting as some other I have used - but maybe that is because it is a round shape, which means inside of chin guard is close to chin - to me feels a bit claustrophobic. Lift-up front is useful when stopped ( but I have to take gloves off to find the release button ), but TBH never ridden with it open.


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