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Seeker 26-06-20 03:00 PM

Our tax money at work
 
https://i1.wp.com/theaviationist.com...78%2C381&ssl=1


Cost? about £1 million for the repainted scheme, it was grey. Madness (imho)

Grant66 26-06-20 03:41 PM

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Not sure where they get those figures.

Normal cost for a repaint is €200-300k, depending on complexity.
That includes materials and Toulouse labour costs. Normal repainting removes the old paint as it increases weight.

Perhaps they are including the refurbishment cost of ZZ336 which was due a major. It would have been repainted after this service anyway.

So they are suggesting it's cost £900k more to have it this colour as opposed to it's usually grey? Or is the headline misleading?

Whether this is the best colour scheme for a military tanker is debatable.

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Adam Ef 26-06-20 04:16 PM

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Why does it look very American to me even though that's the British flag?

Kenzie 26-06-20 04:21 PM

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https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/26/union...lane-12905817/

Grant66 26-06-20 04:43 PM

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If it was the right way up on both sides then the design at the front of the fin wouldn't line up.

Poor design to have that issue.

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Bibio 26-06-20 05:56 PM

Re: Our tax money at work
 
do you honestly expect the prime minister of one of the greatest country's in the world if not the greatest to fly in some scabby old plane to foreign dignitaries. if you do then fuk off to some backwater country and moan there....... remember its not just for bojo to fly in just like yankers airforce one that shuttles trumpity around. it will serve many prime minister's over the years. bargain if you ask me.



what i do object to is the ludicrous price HS2 filling the pockets of schoolboy wank mates.

Dave20046 26-06-20 10:05 PM

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I've just googled the old jobby, it didn't look rundown just drab. I bet he just didn't like the colour, or needed an excuse to give one of his mates a few quid. Bit more cash we don't have ****ed away IMO (unless whoever he paid is going to give the country a spiffing deal on something useful).

What I'm more interested in is the dirt bikes he's just bought. Can't see what they are , but I'm far more supportive of that (as long as they were under £10k!)

Craig380 27-06-20 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 3117077)
what i do object to is the ludicrous price HS2 filling the pockets of schoolboy wank mates.

Amen. I live 4 miles from Macclesfield station, which is on the West Coast mainline. It's currently 1h40m to Euston. Getting there 15 minutes earlier offers no real benefit at all.

What WOULD offer a real benefit is free high-speed Wi-Fi on the train, which could be provisioned for a few million quid. Then no-one would care about getting from A to B 15 minutes faster. That could have saved over 50 billion.

Ruffy 28-06-20 11:21 PM

Re: Our tax money at work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 3117077)
what i do object to is the ludicrous price HS2 filling the pockets of schoolboy wank mates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig380 (Post 3117096)
Amen. I live 4 miles from Macclesfield station, which is on the West Coast mainline. It's currently 1h40m to Euston. Getting there 15 minutes earlier offers no real benefit at all.

What WOULD offer a real benefit is free high-speed Wi-Fi on the train, which could be provisioned for a few million quid. Then no-one would care about getting from A to B 15 minutes faster. That could have saved over 50 billion.

I agree improved internet connectivity would help but personally I'd just prefer more space (in standard class). You're relatvely well served on WCML. Pre-Covid, I travelled from Derby to both London and York regularly, about 2 hours for each journey. Travelling in standard class is not very pleasant really - trains usually very busy and no chance of two side-by-side travellers (or four at a table) working comfortably with laptops or A4-based paperwork. Even with quality wi-fi it's hard to work standing up.

And therein lies the challenge - too many passengers for the capacity of the railway. I'm still not convinced about the business case and planned solution for HS2 as it currently stands. The explananation of it generally has been shockingly bad but having done a little bit of extra research, I can see that the journey time saving is only a secondary benefit - the main benefit is adding capacity to the whole network (by giving demand for existing routes somewhere else to go).

SV650rules 29-06-20 08:22 PM

Re: Our tax money at work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant66 (Post 3117069)
Not sure where they get those figures.

Normal cost for a repaint is €200-300k, depending on complexity.
That includes materials and Toulouse labour costs. Normal repainting removes the old paint as it increases weight.

Perhaps they are including the refurbishment cost of ZZ336 which was due a major. It would have been repainted after this service anyway.

So they are suggesting it's cost £900k more to have it this colour as opposed to it's usually grey? Or is the headline misleading?

Whether this is the best colour scheme for a military tanker is debatable.

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It suits the left biased media to say the cost was just a paint job, never let the facts get in the way of an opportunity for Boris bashing. Corbyn as PM would have left the plane drab except for the hammer and sickle on the tail, and maybe an IS logo.


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