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SVrider 14-06-18 07:39 PM

sv650 AL7 tick after sparkplugs change
 
Hi guys,

Just replaced my sparkplugs the other day and after a quick run i`ve noticed some kind of intermittent ticking noise coming from the engine, at idle. It goes away when i rev it a bit. Engine pulls the same as before changing the sparkplugs. The ticking is not loud and it comes after one minute or so after i start the engine. I haven`t torqued the plugs; used the hand tight method + 1/4 turn. Any ideas what can cause the ticking ? Thanks a lot.:thumleft:

SV650rules 15-06-18 07:11 AM

Re: sv650 AL7 tick after sparkplugs change
 
Metal things can make ticking noise as they warm up or cool down, don't know why this would appear after plug change though. Maybe as Seeker says a HV spark leaking somewhere, maybe check plug caps are firmly pushed on, if not may have spark jumping to to sparkplug top terminal. has the lead been loosened in the cap during the change and spark having to jump a gap inside the cap housing.

Artstu 15-06-18 08:52 AM

Re: sv650 AL7 tick after sparkplugs change
 
The 1/4 turn is really for used plugs, I'd say new ones need at least another 1/4 turn if not a bit more.

Craig380 15-06-18 09:19 AM

Re: sv650 AL7 tick after sparkplugs change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artstu (Post 3087235)
The 1/4 turn is really for used plugs, I'd say new ones need at least another 1/4 turn if not a bit more.

NGK's own advice for 10mm & 12mm plugs is 180 degrees from finger tight for new plugs, and 30 degrees for used plugs.

http://www.ngk-sparkplugs.jp/english...q18/index.html

SVrider 15-06-18 02:28 PM

Re: sv650 AL7 tick after sparkplugs change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SV650rules (Post 3087224)
Metal things can make ticking noise as they warm up or cool down, don't know why this would appear after plug change though. Maybe as Seeker says a HV spark leaking somewhere, maybe check plug caps are firmly pushed on, if not may have spark jumping to to sparkplug top terminal. has the lead been loosened in the cap during the change and spark having to jump a gap inside the cap housing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig380 (Post 3087238)
NGK's own advice for 10mm & 12mm plugs is 180 degrees from finger tight for new plugs, and 30 degrees for used plugs.

http://www.ngk-sparkplugs.jp/english...q18/index.html

I`ve checked the caps and wires. The`re all clean, no cracks and i`ve firmly pushed on the caps. i`ve put a smear of silicone grease on the caps rubber seals, (the ones that came into contact with the ceramic bit ob the sparplug), to prevent any spark jumps. Intermittent Tick-tick still there at idle.

SVrider 15-06-18 02:40 PM

Re: sv650 AL7 tick after sparkplugs change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig380 (Post 3087238)
NGK's own advice for 10mm & 12mm plugs is 180 degrees from finger tight for new plugs, and 30 degrees for used plugs.

http://www.ngk-sparkplugs.jp/english...q18/index.html

Just took the plugs out from the front head and got them finger tight + 1/2 turn/180 degrees ( at half turn plugs fill quite tight like there`s no more tread to go, so i`ve stoped there )
I can still hear the ticking at idle but quieter. Now i have to do the same with the rear head but i have to take some petrol out of the tank or ride it till the tank goes half full.
Possibly i`ve got the plugs to lose in the first place ?
PS: used the OEM sparkplugs. SPARK PLUG (MR8E-9) 09482-00646

Thank you all.

Talking Heads 15-06-18 03:19 PM

Re: sv650 AL7 tick after sparkplugs change
 
Should've left them well alone.


Spark plugs last much longer than manufacturers would have you believe.


Its almost as if they want you to keep buying lots of their product or something...

Craig380 15-06-18 03:21 PM

Re: sv650 AL7 tick after sparkplugs change
 
The other thing is, I've never heard an SV that doesn't tick intermittently at idle. The SV motor is notorious for its mechanical noise, and for the randomness with which the various noises can come and go.

My own K6 with 25,000 miles will sometimes tick and tap merrily at idle, and other times will be mechanically silent, and there's no rhyme or reason for the difference. Doesn't matter if it's hot or cold, has done a long run or a short run, or whatever. It's always done it, ever since I got the bike with 8,000 miles up.

It's because, unlike an inline twin or four-cylinder bike, the SV has 2x very long camchains, and doesn't have a big chunky cylinder block to dampen mechanical noises.


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