Trackday project K4
 

This is a bit of a blog / project track thread.
Feel free to comment (Trolls or people with fishing rods trying to get a bite! will be ignored!)

I bought the bike last friday, a 1 owner, 9000 mile 2003 model registered in 2004. Got it home in the works van with the alarm only going off twice! Blame my team mate / work colleague for that!

Story goes that after getting bitten by the track bug after a visit to cadwell this year I wanted a SV to have fun on and to get stuck in with swapping bits n bobs and generally getting dirty! Of course as this is the year of austerity, budget will always be tight so no fancy kit but hopefully a decent return for some tweaks.

NOTE: Most items to return the bike to street worthy I will keep, but the luggage rack, belly pan and alarm are up for grabs.
PM me tho, dont want to turn this thread into a selling one!

Plans are:

Suspension: Replace rear shock (ZX10 unit on the way), hyperpro fork springs ordered.
Brakes: Service stock units
Sprockets: -1 front, +1 rear for acceleration.
Bodywork: Run as streetfighter until confident, then find race/track fairings, seat etc.
Exhaust: Bin the mahoosive stock item, lighter carbon can but with baffle for db limits!
Misc: Paint wheels gold (Just cos I like it!)
Remove Meta alarm.
Air filter replacement.
Tank raise?? (Seen this idea as a ram air thing, any good?)

Pics are from the ebay listing!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img5...2/orig3res.jpg
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Monday night:

Rear end strip down, prepped for new shock and jack up links.
Hoping to put rear end plastics back together but minus any heavy bits we don't need.

Still need to remove alarm, seen a youtube video for that! Not too bad a job.
Also needs a cleanup after last owner liked collecting dirt on his bikes :mad:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img5.../rearwork2.jpg
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Looks like the thing i'd love to do if i had monies or a track near me. Maybe a bit down the line what rubber you going to run on it? Will be checking back to check on your progress mate all the best.

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dude!!!!!!!!!

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Haha you found us then!

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As I'm no expert on "rubber" I'll leave that up to suggestion, it has pretty new Maxxis touring tyres. I will use these for the first track day at least until I know the thing works properly! Ta

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Tonight, front end prepared for fork work, don't worry about the bricks, a new headstock stand is on order to hold the front up properly!

Gonna make a ally plate for the front, to basically cover the fairing bracket cos I want to keep the dash unit. You'll see what I mean later!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img2.../frontwork.jpg
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have a look at the race dash mount, you can fit the speedo to those and they look alot nicer!

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Subbed!

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You appear to have the Accossato raised handlebars and the top brake line looks tight too me (Safety!).
You may want to consider slightly longer braided lines ( may be spongey at 9 years old) if you want all adjustability these bars can give you and check free play in the switch gear cables at full steering locks, or otherwise going back to stock bars ( little weight saving).

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Yes I would like to go back to stock bars, I have now got some coming so these risers are up fro grabs. PM me.

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Having trouble finding one, you got a link?

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Tonights work:

Removed Meta alarm, however:
Most wires were obvious in function and easy to work out the removal of.
BUT there are four wires now left dangling, they are all black with small gold mark on them.
There are two connections coming from the fuse box at the rear and from the small clear plastic block with many other indicator wire connections.
The other two come from somewhere in the main body of the bike.

Anybody with a haynes manual or other tell me what the black and small gold wires might be?

(PS the starter motor did run after alarm removal BUT there was still a "Check" message on the dash and the bike did not run, two possibles: side stand not fully down (Should it be down or up?) due to abba stand and the fuel tank may be empty!!)


Otherwise not much to report, front headstock stand arrived and works great. Makes fork jobs much nicer!
Still waiting for hyperpro springs to arrive along with the air filter and zx10 shock.
Also on its way should be a gsxr race seat to see if we can make that fit!

Thanks for looking. Sorry no pics!

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I have a spare set of clip ons for sale if you are interested. Mine is a K3, but I fitted a riser bar for hooligan appeal!
:D

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A little more done tonight, test fitted the zx10 shock, fits very nice but I need to shorten the bottom bolt that I'm using for clearance on the links (Which are the nice shiny bits hanging down). And a washer perhaps to stop the shock bottom from swinging side to side a couple of mm.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img809/8417/shock1.jpg

Also removed the stuff off the raised bars ready for switching back to stock ones.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img827/2885/bars1r.jpg

You can also see some idiot still in his work clothes cleaning the swingarm... wonder who that handsome devil could be??

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img694/189/bars2me.jpg

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hairs going a bit thin on top

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Yeah it saves weight :mrgreen:

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It'll be great fun on the track, what plans do you have for the front end? Any?

Nice project. Think it's a K4 btw :)

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Front end will be limited to spring swap for hyperpros, hopefully braided lines too.
Hoping to stay within minitwin regulations should the road take us that way!


DarrenSV650s:
It could very well be a K4, it was apparently registered early tho, I think November 2003. Which bits are K4 specific?

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It has the K4 subframe ;)

K3's aren't black and don't have the S on the tank. They have Suzuki

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Can anybody confirm that a standard brake lever / master cylinder setup will work with the racing style brake lines. I.e. a seperate line from the cylinder to each caliper?

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Yeah mate you're lever/master cylinder is fine, the bit which changes is the banjo bolt.
You'll need a double banjo bolt that you'll generally get with a raceline kit

So ATM you've got:
http://www.atecautotechnic.co.uk/med...Atec-227_4.jpg

With the two lines you use one of these instead:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

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Thanks owenski, looks straight forward enough. I also read on the minitwins site that the "split" for the front brake lines must be above the lower yoke, I guess this still conforms with that!

I'm not familiar with the ruling as I don't compete but yeah this would certainly be above the lower yoke... Unless something is going seriously wrong with your journey/race ;-)

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Anybody know if RV Racing are still active? I emailed them regards the rear subframe but no answer as yet.
http://www.rvracing.co.uk/sv6501.html

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I would leave it as stock-ish as possible for the moment, so leave the plastics off but don't bother butchering on any track fairings or new subframes or seat units etc. until you've had it out a few times.

Lines, just get "race" setup lines, for road/TD or race as they're by far the least hassle solution.


Forks to stay within minitwin rules you can do what you want but they must not be modified to allow for further external adjustment.

Commonly, springs/springs + emulators or less commonly a full cartridge conversion (not many people can do this within rules).

Also I would leave the induction standard, when you want to go further do the whole hog, full system and remap and dyno time. No half measures or you just waste money now you could spend for actual gains later.

Same with raising links, they don't do the rear linkage progression curve any good. One of the later ninja shocks is about spot on for length so you don't need to mess with it.

Where are you racing/based?

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I may have a few race parts hanging around at home, I hadn't got around to posting them for sale. Crash bungs, race dash, various other bits and bobs I think.

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I have a set of Goodridge "Race" lines coming for the front, is Dot 4 still recommended or 5 / 5.1 better?

I've only got a new air filter to replace the tired existing one, so apart from maybe a lighter exhaust that'll be all for engine mods.

Can you define what is meant by "later ninja shocks" mine is a 06/07. is that long enough?

I'm based in Bridlington east yorks, trackdays initially will be at Cadwell park.
Racing is probably a season or two down the line!

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DOT 4 is absolutely fine.

Later ninja shock is longer, one with light gold spring.

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This weekend I have mostly been:

Spraying the forks, went for black to complement the gold wheels.

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I know the finish is not what you might call smooth, but when its dry it'll look like those matt black kettles you get. Which i prefer to shiny.

And picked up this rather worse for wear looking beowolf end can. Has got some scrapes and dings but at least it saves me the worry of doing it myself!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img6...0/exhaustt.jpg

Jobs this week:
Replace fork springs and oil. Clean up front wheel and drop both wheels at spray shop. Have beers on last day of work get together. :pukel:

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My Mam's got the exact same wallpaper!

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Then I'm glad your mam shares the excellent tastes of our house's previous owners!!

Anyway maybe she has the same cream / grease stained carpet as can be seen in this photo showing the test fit of the Goodridge braided hoses:
(The box was soiled so it was necessary to check all parts were present, it seems they all are!)

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Some more progress again tonight, the forks are back in situ after the springs and oil were swapped. Also back on are the brakes and clip ons, the brake lines are semi-bled using a syringe to reverse bleed and get something in the lines, to be finished once wheel is back on.
(It would seem I need to route the throttle cables correctly, looking at the pics again they should be coming up out the top of the grip not the front, oops)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img9...rksbackon1.jpg

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Another few hours on the project last night:
After some stripping back of more insulation tape I finally worked out which wires needed re-linking after the alarm removal, after which the fuel pump ran but we still had a FI error, 5 mins later and realising the tip over sensor was upside down, she fired up straight away!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img87/1481/wiresf.jpg

Put the front wheel back in after a clean up and bled the brakes again, needs some pclips for brake lines and the mudguard back on to be finished.

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AND after cutting off the helmet hooks from the subframe and a little fibreglass trimming, the gsxr seat in mock up position. I will aim to run the standard subframe for this season and then move onto a nice clean setup in future (Well thats the plan!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img1...4/seatmock.jpg

Still to do:
1) Beowolf end can swap
2) New chain and sprockets
3) Seat installation and electrics tidy up inc a battery box solution.
4) Test on some private land!
4) Trackday book!!

Can anybody tell me a popular race battery?

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An interesting one that I'd liked answered, and seems relevant to this thread. I have a ZX6 07/08 shock on a K9 which has raised the rear a bit. Seemed fine for my height & weight (14.5 stone) as rear always felt low, although I realise better springs would have helped regardless. But it felt fine.

I was advised by a forum member that this isn't a good change for the reason you mention.

So I visited J&S in Bristol for a setup. They said the height was fine and they run even higher on their SV racers (albeit I imagine they use much better shocks). But other than bringing the preload down a notch I was told this wouldn't upset the handling much apart from improving turning sharpness.

So interested to get some clarification and may help the OP to decide on rear shock setup.

Do you mean Jhs racing? Not j&s the overpriced accessory store ;)

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And did they use shorter links to do this or just lengthen the shock mounts? I imagine the latter.
I heard non-original links aren't minitwin legal anyway so they'll probably come off again!

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Apologies (lol) JHS Racing in Bristol out near Brislington way.

Good question, I should have asked to have a look at one of their bikes really. They were right in front of me at the time, but I also suspect the shock itself was longer.