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metalmonkey 11-11-07 03:35 PM

Gear changing without the clutch
 
Hey so any tips guys?

I was riding back from Soho friday night trying to do it, was on about 7 rpm, and pushed the gear leaver it clicked up a gear, that worked till about 3rd, I could get any higher uo the gears.

I also found it hard to do, had to apply quite a bit of pressure on the gear leaver for it too change. Is its casue my bikes new, so the gear the box is tight?

How about coming back down the gears? Still the save rev range?

ThEGr33k 11-11-07 04:29 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
Its easy its all about experience... You have to shut the throttle off to the point when the engine is neither pulling or breaking and then itll click up as easy as ever! (you can even do it in the car.)

It wont dmg anything if done properly ofcourse. Though i will warn you my bike seems to love to jump from second back to neutral when im really going for it... Might be worth using clutch 1->2nd.


One more thing ALWAYS use clutch to gear shift down... Period.

metalmonkey 11-11-07 04:31 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
Argh that may be problem then, I was letting throttle close before I changed, I'll have play with it tomorrow, I'll race to work, no one is around at 5am;)

ThEGr33k 11-11-07 04:38 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
Good luck with it. :D

just slowly close the throttle while pressing the gear lever and when you reach that threshold it will just pop up.

Pedrosa 11-11-07 04:40 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
For what you gain, I don't see the point. Really.:rolleyes:

yorkie_chris 11-11-07 04:41 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
i do it differently, when accelerating, push the shifter upwards, it won't move as the engine power is locking the gears in place.
then when you want to shift, very quickly snap the throttle closed then open again.
it works with no graunching noises, is as smooth and faster than using the clutch, and my gearbox hasn't exploded.

I blip the throttle and use the clutch to downshift

metalmonkey 11-11-07 04:46 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
Okay I will try both methods over the next few days, and see what happens!

Though the ride is work is short, I did in quickly this morinng, well that was becasue I turned alarm off was about to go back sleep and just about remembered I was supposed to be somewhere!

ThEGr33k 11-11-07 04:51 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1337554)
i do it differently, when accelerating, push the shifter upwards, it won't move as the engine power is locking the gears in place.
then when you want to shift, very quickly snap the throttle closed then open again.
it works with no graunching noises, is as smooth and faster than using the clutch, and my gearbox hasn't exploded.

I blip the throttle and use the clutch to downshift


Very similar... with mine it relys on me getting the throttle perfect everytime... i might have to see if this is easier your way... should think it will be :D cheers.


Down shifting yes same.

yorkie_chris 11-11-07 04:53 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedrosa (Post 1337551)
For what you gain, I don't see the point. Really.:rolleyes:

I'm a lazy f###er and like to lean on the tank with my left arm most of the time.

ThEGr33k 11-11-07 04:54 PM

Re: Gear changing without the clutch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1337575)
I'm a lazy f###er and like to lean on the tank with my left arm most of the time.

LMAO thats odd, same here! Im guessing you do a lot of miles too?

+ TBH it is much faster once you have it nailed! Why do you think cars ore going all flappy paddeld? Heh been on bikes since the dawn of time... they are only about 100 years behind :p


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