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ShadFX 02-05-10 10:29 PM

Forward facing average speed cameras
 
Hey all

Quick question about forward facing avg speed cameras .... Can they catch us bikes? I was thinking about it on a ride home the other day as someone came filing past me doing about 60 in the 50... The obvious answer is of course no, but is it possible for the cameras from the other side of the motorway / a road to catch our back plates ? I only ask because if they cant, how do they monitor people in the contraflow lanes?!

Cheers

Spikenipple 03-05-10 12:16 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
No the ones on the opposite carriageway can't get you. On contraflow they have seperate cameras set up pointing at the front of each lane's cars.

G 03-05-10 05:55 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
The new Software for average speed cameras can get bike. Like the ones on the cat and fiddle. The cameras look EXACTLY the same.

It's a risky game now, and there's no way to tell the difference.

2hys 03-05-10 06:11 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 2258874)
The new Software for average speed cameras can get bike. Like the ones on the cat and fiddle. The cameras look EXACTLY the same.

It's a risky game now, and there's no way to tell the difference.

so they catch the bike, but how can they trace you with no plate visible?

lukemillar 03-05-10 06:22 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2hys (Post 2258877)
so they catch the bike, but how can they trace you with no plate visible?

Eh? I'm pretty sure they'll be a way to record the plate number. They're not that stupid! :p

orose 03-05-10 06:30 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
CCTV in the roadworks that picks up breakdowns can also monitor moving traffic, and they know that between point X and point Y, something without a front number plate was moving through this area. If you annoy them enough, there may well be one pointing in the right direction (or a traffic car up ahead) the next time you go through.

2hys 03-05-10 06:49 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lukemillar (Post 2258881)
Eh? I'm pretty sure they'll be a way to record the plate number. They're not that stupid! :p

not stupid ! can i refur you to this thread ;) http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=150503


Quote:

Originally Posted by orose (Post 2258882)
CCTV in the roadworks that picks up breakdowns can also monitor moving traffic, and they know that between point X and point Y, something without a front number plate was moving through this area. If you annoy them enough, there may well be one pointing in the right direction (or a traffic car up ahead) the next time you go through.

thought as much, i got average cameras on the the way to and from work, aways take it easy just i case :smt108

Red Herring 03-05-10 07:20 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
Average speed cameras work on ANPR technology. They read your number plate at one point, and then again at another, and work out the average speed between the two locations. It follows that if they can't read your number plate they won't even know you were there, let alone how fast you were going. With regard to reading across the carriageway, in short no they won't. The cameras are set up with a very specific field of view and focal length so unless it is specifically adjusted to read the opposite carriageway (for example in a contraflow) then it won't routinely read anything there.
Average speed cameras are effective because the majority of drivers comply with them, which actually makes it quite hard for someone else to speed, unless they are on a motorbike or prepared to weave in and out of the traffic. If they do this they tend to stand out, which makes them very easy prey for an unmarked car. As has been mentioned if you also do it regularly along a particular stretch the public tend to complain, (nothing like a feeling of injustice to motivate some people) and then someone gets tasked to specifically go there and wait for you.

My advice is to try and stick to the average speed limits, you really are easy pickings if you don't.

Berlin 03-05-10 08:28 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
Does anyone know of anyone actually being fined from an average speed camera? I've not heard of anyone yet.

C

Dicky Ticker 03-05-10 08:54 AM

Re: Forward facing average speed cameras
 
Had an attempt on a night time one but they forgot to stand the speed limit signs up and even then they were wrong size and position.


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