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no_akira 30-10-10 07:43 PM

California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
California are on the verge of total legalization of marijuana and as the Americans never do anything by halves. It will be very interesting to see how this pans out. How big business and marketing take it on ?

http://yeson19.com/

It's not my bag as I find the smell a bit offensive but I have enjoyed it when i've been in the company of Asian friends as it is there bag as they don't drink. I liked the no hangover part the next day.

But to me its more about the freedom of choice part. Also I find it too much hassle to go driving the streets of Balsell Heath looking for a gapped toothed Rasta for an eighth of dubious quality.

But I think in these times of enforced leisure (no jobs) governments of the world are looking for a relatively costless "soma" * as TV and the Internet aren't quite enough. Governments really don't like rioting in the streets, like those crazy French.

[Soma = a happy drug, dished out to the masses in Aldious Huxley's, "Brave New World"]

beabert 30-10-10 07:51 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
I knew many who smoked it heavily, and they were all not 'quiet right in the head'. There is no conclusive proof that is causes mental disorders, but experiencing how they are; i wouldnt want is legalised.

In truth those same people properly took a lot of other stuff too.

maviczap 30-10-10 08:00 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
Don't expect any change here, we can't even sort out alchohol misuse

thulfi 30-10-10 08:00 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
Cannabis being illegal doesn't make less people inclined to take it. More do it here and in France than in the Netherlands.

About a month ago I came back from California where I'd stayed for about 6 weeks. It's astonishing how many people:

A. Smoke weed
B. 'Know a friend' that has a medical marijuana licence.

Everyone I spoke to there says it's already practically legal, all they need to do now is make the money from it go to the right people.

Couple of pics I took when walking down Santa Monica pier.
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1562/img0119w.jpghttp://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2284/img0118p.jpg



They literally recruit. The more the docs prescribe marijuana the more they make out of it. 'Back pain, insomnia, depression, glaucoma'...it's an endless list of problems that pretty much anybody could blag and get away with a card.

I'm confused though, does this proposition exempt it from Federal law? Because although it may be legal by state, the Feds can come along and confiscate the weed, as they have done to a few dispensaries in California previously.

no_akira 30-10-10 08:06 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
A good point that was made by an American researcher on utube was that it needs to be legalised not because it is harmless but because (skunk) is harmfull (schizophrenia, especially young black teens born in August !).
Most things that are harmfull end up being licensed, taxed and controlled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLy1...eature=related

Like Gin in the 17th century.
Quote:

Don't expect any change here, we can't even sort out alchohol misuse
This is the point i'm trying to make I think governments are gearing up for a reversal on their stance on this for lots of reason. But mainly cost in policing a hypocritical & nonscience law and not earning any revenue in return.

maviczap 30-10-10 08:10 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no_akira (Post 2409462)
A good point that was made by an American researcher on utube was that it needs to be legalised not because it is harmless but because (skunk) is harmfull (schizophrenia, especially young black teens born in August !).
Most things that are harmfull end up being licensed, taxed and controlled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLy1...eature=related

Like Gin in the 17th century.

Well trying to control the production of skunk in this country would be very hard given the number of farms being detected in rented properties. Almost one a week in my neck of the woods and one was found down my street being looked after by some nice Vietnamese illegal immigrants.

dizzyblonde 30-10-10 08:40 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
Arnie must be getting soft ;-)

Dave20046 30-10-10 09:12 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde (Post 2409500)
Arnie must be getting soft ;-)

Arnie used to smoke the stuff while he trained.

Sid Squid 30-10-10 09:50 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beabert (Post 2409436)
I knew many who smoked it heavily, and they were all not 'quiet right in the head'. There is no conclusive proof that is causes mental disorders, but experiencing how they are; i wouldnt want is legalised.

Agree in part, but then again there are people who abuse alcohol and suffer for it as does society around them. I don't see a difference.

beabert 30-10-10 09:54 PM

Re: California, Proposition 19, freeing the weed !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 2409566)
Agree in part, but then again there are people who abuse alcohol and suffer for it as does society around them. I don't see a difference.

Agree, but id happily see alcohol banned too lol, infact id rather it banned than 'weed'


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