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tigersaw 18-01-11 10:25 PM

JIS screwdrivers
 
Anyone know where to get a set of JIS screwdrivers in the UK?
I want to take the carb apart and rather than cheese up the screws I'd prefer to use the correct tool

Sid Squid 18-01-11 10:37 PM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
No idea, if you find some that aren't utter crap do let us know.

toxic 18-01-11 10:44 PM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
Impact driver and replacement screws work for me.

yorkie_chris 18-01-11 10:46 PM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 2463633)
No idea, if you find some that aren't utter crap do let us know.

Lol +1

I tend to use PH bits in impact driver (carefully!)

DarrenSV650S 18-01-11 10:51 PM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
What's different about them to normal bits?

yorkie_chris 18-01-11 10:52 PM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
Slightly different shape

tigersaw 18-01-11 10:57 PM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 2463662)
What's different about them to normal bits?

Philips screws and screwdrivers are designed to 'cam out' if over torqued, protecting the work but mullering the screw. Using a philips screwdriver to unwind a stiff JIS screw will cheese it up for that reason.

DarrenSV650S 18-01-11 11:09 PM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
Ask Ed. He seems to know about the two types of drivers


;)

embee 18-01-11 11:13 PM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
I always worked loosely on the basis that JIS was effectively Phillips with a radius, but reading further like here it's more the other way round, Phillips is JIS with a taper (though Phillips came along a long time ago, way before JIS). It appears that Phillips is actually designed to cam-out (as Tigersaw says), it was done for early machine assembly with no mechanical torque control. JIS (and Pozidrive) have parallel sides and don't cam-out as easily, auto assembly uses torque control.

Having read all that, I use good quality Phillips bits in JIS screws with very few issues usually, the problems get much worse as the bits wear and get more taper on them. Pozidrive doesn't fit at all (they're the ones with the extra notches in the inner corners of the recess, angles are all different and they just don't match Phillips or JIS).

beabert 19-01-11 12:22 AM

Re: JIS screwdrivers
 
Well you learn something everyday! i want some now, assuming there are jis screws on the SV :D


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