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aaron020873 09-04-11 02:01 PM

pay cut
 
does anyone know what my rights are to this?

the company want to give me a paycut of 5%, on top of this they want to take away the money i get paid for travelling i.e as it stands i have to drive for 45 mins a day unpaid, then after that i get paid for the rest of my time spent driving at my normal hourly rate,i could be working anywhere in the country so this can be quite a lot of driving (and money). They are also stopping our benefit of 2 hours extra pay per day when working away from home, and also our 100% pay when leaving before 5.30am.

i'm after info on the driving side of this more than anything as i live 25 mins from our office and get there for 7am and i'm paid from 7-4, but the problem is i could then be working 3 hours away?? so should i be expected to drive 3 hours home with no payment????

i have done some calculations based on my last twelve months pay slips and it averages out that i would lose about £85 a week, for me this is a big hit.

so there you go any advice guys??? ps i'm already looking for a new job..LOL

Dicky Ticker 09-04-11 02:20 PM

Re: pay cut
 
I would imagine travelling to and from your office is your responsibility BUT-----
if your hours paid are based on the office hours and that is your place of employment
surely you must be entitled to drive back there on completion of your days work which in theory is still part of your working day as your employer has designated where you are working that day.Alternatively you finish and drive back to your place of employment within your working hours as in finish at the location allowing yourself time to drive back.
I TAKE IT YOUR GRIPE IS NOT BEING EITHER ALLOWED OR PAID FOR TRAVELLING TIME

aaron020873 09-04-11 03:47 PM

Re: pay cut
 
my gripe is that 1 day i could be working 10 mins away from the office, the next i could be 3 hours away and all that travelling time is not paid for, in other words i could be working 40 hours 1 week, and then 55 hours the next with no extra pay. Also i'am still expected to go out of my way to drop people off on my way home making the journey even longer, and also that on average £85 a week loss is alot to lose.
i just can't seem to find any rules anywhere about if i'm actually entitled to payment or not outside of my normal working hours.
yes travelling to and from my office should be my responsibility but surely without extra payment then i should start there at 7am and finish there at 4 pm. and leave the van there.

G 09-04-11 04:00 PM

Re: pay cut
 
That's normal for salary pay isn't it? I can work 70+hrs some weeks but font get paid anymore for it.

As for the paycut... It sucks but they can do it, my previous employer gave everyone a 12.5% paycut. If you don't like it, vote with your feet and leave, that's what I did.

aaron020873 09-04-11 05:29 PM

Re: pay cut
 
i'm not on a salary i'm paid weekly by the hour!!!! salaries tend to take a certain amount into consideration don't they then it's upto you to take the rough with the smooth.

and as for voting with my feet it may be the only option!!

timwilky 09-04-11 05:36 PM

Re: pay cut
 
Think yourself lucky to have a job.

I drive an hour and a half each way to get to my current place of work. Do I claim the time. No I work 8 hours once I get there. those entitled to payment in my back seat do claim

Pay cut, I went 4 years without a pay rise. I reckon I am still on 20% less than what I was earning 5 years ago when I was getting bonuses etc.

Specialone 09-04-11 06:07 PM

Re: pay cut
 
Afaik, if you have an employment contract they cannot lower your pay without your approval.
It is a request not compulsory, problem is most will say it's either cut or cut staff, so most agree to it.

Bri w 09-04-11 06:44 PM

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Look at it from another perspective. A company is struggling courtesy of the current economic climate and has a choice between lowering wages/benefits or going under. They ask their staff to consider a paycut or carry on as they are but with the potential of going to the wall.

No one wants to cut wages, absolutely no one wants to cut wages. If wages are cut people leave, and if it's a skilled job there is a potential for even greater costs when seeking a replacement.

None of the above is of any help to you, and what and how you deal with it is very much up to you. Pay rises, and cuts are at the discretion of the employer.

keith_d 09-04-11 11:25 PM

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Where I work they implemented a back door pay cut by removing benefits worth about fifty quid a week. We've lost four people out of our group and I'll be spending the next few months training one of the replacements.

If they had to make pay cuts to stay afloat things might be different, but according to our internal communications we've just had a record year. So I'm not exactly motivated at the moment. (dilligaf)

In a small company it's rather different. If they're that close to going under you need to be leaving anyway.

Just my thoughts,

Keith.

Terah 10-04-11 05:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keith_d (Post 2517459)
In a small company it's rather different. If they're that close to going under you need to be leaving anyway.

Have to say I think it's a shame so many people have this opinion. As Bri said some companies are really struggling now and lowering staff costs is the only way to continue operating.

I'd never want to lower wages either - it's not exactly a morale booster - but I'd hope if I did that people would understand and stick with us. (Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't though)

To the OP - I don't know the legal side of it. If it was me I'd agree that you have a right to some form of compensation for the extra time, but there may not be an automatic 'right' to it. Do you have a written contract? And are there any written policies in place?


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