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chris c 19-08-13 03:44 PM

Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
Hi Guys

just wondered if there is a set amount to raise the forks through the yokes when fitting a 120/70/17 front tyre to a pointy SV650 or a good starting point?

Thanks

Chris

jambo 19-08-13 03:52 PM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
I personally wouldn't. These adjustments do different things, and will be additive, rather than cancelling out I suspect.

Taller tyre may raise the front end by a few mm when upright but will be more pointy, thus feeling like it drops into corners a little faster.

Raising the forks in the yokes will alter the geometry, making the bike turn a little faster.

I'd do one at a time, and I'd not raise the forks more than 5mm initially and 10mm total, as I think somewhere around there you run out of travel meaning at full compression the dust seals would start touching the bottom yoke. Not something they're designed for :)

Maybe pop a cable tie around the fork above the dust seal to see how close you're getting...

Jambo

chris c 19-08-13 04:19 PM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo (Post 2897292)
Maybe pop a cable tie around the fork above the dust seal to see how close you're getting...

Jambo

Thanks

I already have a cable tie around the fork leg with the standard 120/60/17 and have about 15mm between the cable tie and yoke

wideguy 19-08-13 05:12 PM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
If you think the new tire is slowing down the handling, drop the front end a little. Adjust as necessary, in small increments, until you're happy.

Mark-SV-UK 20-08-13 10:31 AM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
I was thinking of putting the 120/70/17 on the front of mine as I need a new tyre they also seem to have more of a selection available is this a common thing people on here do or does it mess up handling and geometry???

wideguy 20-08-13 12:18 PM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark-SV-UK (Post 2897501)
I was thinking of putting the 120/70/17 on the front of mine as I need a new tyre they also seem to have more of a selection available is this a common thing people on here do or does it mess up handling and geometry???

I think racers use the 120/70-17 fronts.
Lots of people change the entire front end, lots of others substitute rear shocks from a variety of bikes. They all seem to report good results.
It's possible to make a motorcycle unstable through geometry changes, but it isn't easy. You can change quite a lot of things, and the decision as to whether it's 'better' or not, is pretty subjective. If you like it, if it suits your riding style, it's better.
Try it. See what you think.

Runako 20-08-13 12:21 PM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
In reality a lot of it is subjective. What you really need is a good series of corners, or a track to play around with and then make incrimental changes as Jambo suggested and noting each change as you go along so you know what's needed to put it back to standard settings.

Personally, I would rather adjust the rear than play with front fork height. Unles you're gonna get better fork internals or an improved front end I'd leave it as is and get a good rear shock and sort that out instead.

wideguy 20-08-13 04:01 PM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
With some minor differences between tire manufacturers, the basic difference between a 120/60 and a 120/70 is that the 70 is 24mm larger in diameter, which means it will raise your front end roughly 12mm.
Depending on the tire profile, you may not notice any change in handling, or you might. The most probable result, if there is any noticeable change, is that the steering might feel a bit slower. If it does, and you don't like it, you can drop the front end 10mm and see if it's better.
You will notice a 4.2% change in your speedometer reading, since the SV takes its speed info from the front wheel.

Mark-SV-UK 20-08-13 04:06 PM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
Many thanks very usefull :-)))

Biker Biggles 20-08-13 05:10 PM

Re: Raising the forks in the yokes?
 
I cant remember how much,but you can only drop the front through the yokes so far before you get fouling issues.


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