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The Mass 19-05-05 03:05 PM

Bike Safe (As in Bike Security)
 
HI all,

as you all probably know, I disturbed our favourite Sh1ts from having away with the "Blue Cow" earlier this week.
Since then, or rather, over the last couple of days, I have been putting my Bike Safe together. :thumbsup: With more than a little help from Mr Mass senior :wink:

The Bike Safe is now anchored to 4ft thick concrete 8)
And all the security gadgets you could possibly think of inside and outside :thumbsup:


And guess what?

My insurance company only see it as a garage :?

When I phoned the Makers of Bike Safe, they told me that Carol Nash are 1 that they know of that will give a discount.

My insurance company wanted to know if it was Thatcham Approved or Sold Secure - WTF!!! :shock:

So I guess I now have to convince them ](*,)

Cloggsy 19-05-05 03:09 PM

Re: Bike Safe (As in Bike Security)
 
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Originally Posted by The Mass
So I guess I now have to convince them ](*,)

It shouldn't be for you to convince them, it should by the 'Bike Safe' manufacturers shouldn't it :?: If the product is that good then they should be singing from the hill-tops about it & inviting all the insurance comanies to do destructive testing on them via Thatcham etc...

Just IMHO of course :wink:

Jabba 19-05-05 03:41 PM

Re: Bike Safe (As in Bike Security)
 
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Originally Posted by The Mass
My insurance company only see it as a garage :?

I assume that they give you a discount because of this? Sorry, can't see why you're miffed. I could understand your being miffed if they didn't see it as a garage...................


............or have I missed the point? Again :lol:

Ceri JC 19-05-05 03:45 PM

Re: Bike Safe (As in Bike Security)
 
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Originally Posted by Jabba-the-Hutt
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mass
My insurance company only see it as a garage :?

I assume that they give you a discount because of this? Sorry, can't see why you're miffed. I could understand your being miffed if they didn't see it as a garage...................


............or have I missed the point? Again :lol:

I think he expects it to be seen as more secure than a garage (and hence should offer even better discounts), on account of it being built specifically to secure bikes in/only having one door, etc.

Nouf 19-05-05 04:30 PM

I was pretty miffed when I found out they only considered this as a garage in wood, concrete or metal as opposed to a safer place to keep your bike. I got £15 off my insurance when the thing cost £1500. Bike Safe should have given you a copy of Thatchgam certificate? I got one when I bought mine but still didnt help with the gettimg a better discount. Not sure Carol Nash will offer you any more discount than a "garage". Out of curiosity what kinda extra security you have put in? Was thinking of putting a bollard in front of the doors but can't think of anything else. Alarm, CCTV is pretty much of little use IMO.

The Mass 20-05-05 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nouf
I was pretty miffed when I found out they only considered this as a garage in wood, concrete or metal as opposed to a safer place to keep your bike. I got £15 off my insurance when the thing cost £1500. Bike Safe should have given you a copy of Thatchgam certificate? I got one when I bought mine but still didnt help with the gettimg a better discount. Not sure Carol Nash will offer you any more discount than a "garage". Out of curiosity what kinda extra security you have put in? Was thinking of putting a bollard in front of the doors but can't think of anything else. Alarm, CCTV is pretty much of little use IMO.

Security as follows:

4 x loop top ground anchors, in each corner of the safe, to chain bike to through the loops :thumbsup:

1 x Y anchor in middle of concrete, to chain Safe & Bike to :thumbsup:

1 x Sensor alarm (F.O.C - courtesy of Gwent Police) this thing is loud and works really well :thumbsup:

1 x Oxford Chain & Lock.

2 x Motrax Disc locks.

Oh yeah nearly forgot, newly added chains and padlocks to all gates around garden :roll:

Ye know, I'm now looking at the above list, and thinking, what a horrible society we must live in, to keep thieving scum away from your own property, it's just rediculous :roll:

And just to add, if they get in and take it, as far as I'm concerned I have done all I can to stop them. Am I right or wrong here?

Ceri JC 20-05-05 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mass
And just to add, if they get in and take it, as far as I'm concerned I have done all I can to stop them. Am I right or wrong here?

You could chain a rottweiler inside the bikesafe and starve it, but other than that, it sounds pretty damn secure :)

Anonymous 20-05-05 09:09 AM

Here is a typically Boccadillo irrelevant opinion:

1. Certain bikes are a target of selection. Often stolen to order, usually untraceable within hours - and therefore always potentially vulnerable no matter what the security.

2. Other bikes are a target of opportunity. Stolen because they can be grabbed quickly; "joy" ridden or broken for a particular piece - the rest dumped.

3. Then there are the "challenges". The massive fortifications that are a magnet - not to bike thieves per se, but to those kids (and it usually is kids) who see it as a challenge (or dare) to overcome the obstacles. These guys are as likely to toss a burning bottle of petrol at your garage as they are to break in.

I have the feeling that, for this lot, the more you do, the more it will attract them. :twisted:

IMHO

The Mass 20-05-05 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Boccadillo
Here is a typically Boccadillo irrelevant opinion:

1. Certain bikes are a target of selection. Often stolen to order, usually untraceable within hours - and therefore always potentially vulnerable no matter what the security.

2. Other bikes are a target of opportunity. Stolen because they can be grabbed quickly; "joy" ridden or broken for a particular piece - the rest dumped.

3. Then there are the "challenges". The massive fortifications that are a magnet - not to bike thieves per se, but to those kids (and it usually is kids) who see it as a challenge (or dare) to overcome the obstacles. These guys are as likely to toss a burning bottle of petrol at your garage as they are to break in.

I have the feeling that, for this lot, the more you do, the more it will attract them. :twisted:

IMHO

Taken on board mate, cheers :wink:

Mr Mass senior (who helped put it together) said something of interest also.
"All you need now is a gun" :shock:

But also consider this, I know this has been s topic of conversation before.

What if I had crept out on Monday (early Tuesday morn) to the three little ****s, collard 1 or 2 of them, and give them a pastin'.
Who's in th wrong then?
Oooh...that'll be me, up on a charge of G.B.H. :shock:
So I'm told, I also have to consider letting the dogs out. As I know 1 of them will stop at nothing to protect (if you know what I mean :wink: ).
As this is also seen as intent, and they could have my 2 best friends destroyed...
I mean...what it the world coming to :?: Sad...very sad :(

Stormspiel 20-05-05 09:19 AM

Yes mate, it seems overkill on security is now the only option to keep things safe.
I had 2 uninsured trials bikes stolen from my garage a couple of years back. There were padlocks on up&over door so they lifted 3 panels off roof and hoiked em up and out. :cry: :cry:

Theres now:

3 Motrax garage guards on up & over door

1 wireless alarm reciever wih main box in bedroom

1 breezeblock building inside garage with own roof coated in glass and secured from inside.

2 bolts on said inner building with 2 inch thick fire door cut to size.

4 anchor points inside inner building secured 12" into concrete pad

2 high security chains with high security padlocks.

It now takes me 15 mins to get out/ put away my bikes. All because some thieving scum stole 2 bikes worth £4000 and police didn't even come to look. I've since had 3 seperate incidents of people trying to steal the bikes. They don't even get past the alarm now, Thieveing B******s ought to have their hands lobbed off :lol: :twisted: :lol:


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