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madEG 07-06-05 09:39 PM

every drop of oil (or just most of it...)
 
Oil change time again. :)

Pulled the plug & filter... let the oil go...

Then I straightened the bike up, off its side stand, and more oil came out...

Then I shook the bike left to right, while centered, and a little more came out...

Then I propped the bike on to the rear paddock stand, a little came out - but a lot more came out after putting the bike back on the side stand... (which I did not expect.)

I know this is getting nit-picky, but I guess my question is:

Do you folks know of any other ways to get more oil out when making a change?

Thanks!

Vtwinlover 07-06-05 10:01 PM

Yeah try this,

First:

Put some newspaper under the bike, start your bike up, take off the oil filler cap on the right hanside of the engine, engage the clutch snick it into 1st, give it a big handfull of Revs then just as you hit 7,000 let the clutch out.

Then:

Pick yourself up off the floor, dust yourself down, leave the shattered bike bits on the ground, go straight to the bike (or whats left of it) pick it up and you'll see that all the oil that was left in the gulleys and sills within the engine has come out. Refill with new oil, pop the cap back on, job done. :lol:

Sorry couldnt resist :wink:

adam 07-06-05 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vtwinlover
7,000

bouncing off the limiter

madEG 07-06-05 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vtwinlover
Yeah try this,

First:

Put some newspaper under the bike, start your bike up, take off the oil filler cap on the right hanside of the engine, engage the clutch snick it into 1st, give it a big handfull of Revs then just as you hit 7,000 let the clutch out.

Then:

Pick yourself up off the floor, dust yourself down,

LOL!

The funny part is I read this thinking "ok... ok... ok... uh... wait... no..."

Well Oiled 07-06-05 10:24 PM

Don't bother - there's quite a bit of oil 'hang up' in various nooks and crannies in the engine, so even if you go to the n'th degree to get everything you can out of the drain, you ain't got pure fresh oil in there when you refill. (Spent a lot of my career testing oils in engines).

pedrosis 07-06-05 10:36 PM

How about getting one of these :lol:
http://www.hullaballoorental.com/pri...umb/straws.jpg

shove it in the oil tank.

suck till you turn bluer than well oiled's bike and that should be job done.

Don't forget to spit some of it out every now and then though :wink:

madEG 07-06-05 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Well Oiled
Don't bother - there's quite a bit of oil 'hang up' in various nooks and crannies in the engine, so even if you go to the n'th degree to get everything you can out of the drain, you ain't got pure fresh oil in there when you refill. (Spent a lot of my career testing oils in engines).

I sorta figured as much, but honestly was surprised when perhaps another ~50ml came out, when I was fairly sure that was all there was... I know I am getting nit picky, but figured that I would ask anyway. :)

Credence to your post comes in simple form. I ran the bike for a minute, and then let the oil settle before a final check, after refilling with fresh oil. I am always surprised with the immediate discoloration of the oil viewable in the site glass.

Thanks Keith.


Quote:

Originally Posted by pedrosis
How about getting one of these :lol:
http://www.hullaballoorental.com/pri...umb/straws.jpg

mmmm.... not sure about aftermarket parts just yet... ;)

pedrosis 07-06-05 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madEG
mmmm.... not sure about aftermarket parts just yet... ;)

You know you want to! such a good sound compared to your standard bendy straw!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well Oiled 07-06-05 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedrosis
How about getting one of these :lol:
http://www.hullaballoorental.com/pri...umb/straws.jpg

Wow - these are the dogs - no oil test lab should be without 'em. :thumbsup:

wheelnut 08-06-05 12:33 AM

It does say in the manual, that you need 2.4 litres for an oil and filter change. And that you need 2.7 litres after an engine overhaul.

So I would conclude that there is 300 ml left in the bike when you change the oil.

I just drained mine on a rear paddock stand then pushed it off the stand to get the last few dregs out. I drained more out then I put in I think.

I also pulled the coil leads off to wind the engine over a couple of times before starting it, because normally you would fill the filter before fitting it, but with an SV you cannot do that


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