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yvo6 07-03-06 11:29 AM

Clutchless Gear change
 
Clutchless gear changing? Does anyone do it on the SV’s. I have tried it and cant get it kicked up into a higher gear – trying it from 3rd upwards. The gear shift feels ‘solid’ and wont go up unless I squeeze the clutch a little. Accelerating hard, roll off throttle quickly, and pushing gear shift up – but no joy. Any thoughts on this???

Jelster 07-03-06 11:40 AM

I don't ride any other way (unless it's slowly, and that's not like me).

Seriously, I "kick shift" on both the SV and the FireBlade all the time. Admitadly the SV hasn't quite gone from 1st to 2nd on a few occasions, but that's probably down to me not having a feel for it yeat, I've only done a couple of hundred miles on so far.

Technique is simple, as you accelerate put a bit of pressure on the lever, dip gas, move foot, back on gas all; done ready for the next one....

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yvo6 07-03-06 11:51 AM

Thanks Jelster :D

Grinch 07-03-06 12:13 PM

I do the same... all up shift are clutchless... I think there is a train of thought thats says it puts less wear on the clutch. As long as your doing it right.

Gears after 3rd work best....

Viney 07-03-06 12:15 PM

Up and down me, but im a muppet :D

Up most of the time, down, only when im 'progessing'

Ceri JC 07-03-06 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Grinch
I do the same... all up shift are clutchless... I think there is a train of thought thats says it puts less wear on the clutch. As long as your doing it right.

Gears after 3rd work best....

Agreed. I don't bother doing it from 1->2, and usually not from 2->3, either. Make sure you "preload" the gear lever with a bit of pressure to take the slack out before actually applying the force to make it change gear. I find high revs and slightly backing off the throttle just as you push the lever help too.

I've learnt how to do it just so I can and do it when I'm in a hurry, but don't do it in day to day riding.

I'd never do a clutchless downshift on the SV (intentionally :oops: :) ), too much engine braking.

Grinch 07-03-06 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Viney
Up and down me, but im a muppet :D

Up most of the time, down, only when im 'progessing'

Apparently I've been know to come off the carriage-way, down though the gears on the slip road no handed arms out like a plane... Me... never... :wink:

Jase22 07-03-06 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceri JC
Make sure you "preload" the gear lever with a bit of pressure to take the slack out before actually applying the force to make it change gear.

I wouldn't do this, it'll put un-necessary wear on the selector.

Jelster 07-03-06 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jase22
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceri JC
Make sure you "preload" the gear lever with a bit of pressure to take the slack out before actually applying the force to make it change gear.

I wouldn't do this, it'll put un-necessary wear on the selector.

Really, but that's the method.... You just apply a small amount of pressure to the lever so when you roll back the gas it drops straight in... Never had any problems with any of my bikes,

(but then I tend not to keep them for too long :roll: )

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jonboy 07-03-06 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jase22
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceri JC
Make sure you "preload" the gear lever with a bit of pressure to take the slack out before actually applying the force to make it change gear.

I wouldn't do this, it'll put un-necessary wear on the selector.

From what I've read that's certainly the case and I've never felt the need, as clutchless upshifting on the SV is a pretty easy operation.

However I'm not convinced that on the road, even riding fast, that it's a necessary technique - a small dab of clutch makes such a difference to the smoothness of the change and is surely mechanically a little more sympathetic.


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