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Originally Posted by northwind
The Abba ones are ace, but sooooo expensive compared to the cheapy ones which do the job just as well. I use yet another random ebay angle-iron number which does the job perfectly. I sometimes wish for more leverage though, as I'm puny.
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Is that similar to any of the ones on here? Or maybe - have you got a photo? I'd like to try and get an idea of what length of handle would be needed to make it a fairly easy/trivial task...
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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel
Working on fat wheels? It's a bit of a funny photo on there. I've taken tyres off a speed tripple, and they have 190 section on the rear, no problem.
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Actually I meant the disc problem - I want to be able to change tyres without removing the discs (i.e. minimum effort required). Looking at that design, the rim would lie on the rubber-coated bit, so that side of the disc would be off the ground (assuming the disc doesn't protrude that far out from the wheel). But what about the other side - do you prop it up with a bit of wood, etc?
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Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S
I take the discs off. The Kat one does the trick (I have down kart rims and car rims with it too  ). But it is a bit of a faff. The long handle actually gets in the way. Think about it, the 'squisher' bit only moves a fraction of the end of the bar ... I like the design of the £21 one actually ... not used one, but unless money isn't an issue at all, I'd go for the £21 as it looks like the best tool per £ 
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Yeah I see what you mean - presumably since it's designed for kart wheels, the intended use wouldn't normally see the handle come into contact with the wheel (kart wheels being much smaller)?
Only problem I could foresee with the £21 one is as above - disc contacting another surface (and possibly having force pushed against it). E.g. on the red one, the part of the rim where you are breaking the bead would have to be against the bottom part of the frame (since it pushes against it). I'm not sure if that even rules out the disc being on there - since the frame of the braker just out quite far (looks like to the spindle hole).
I've bid on a 2nd hand "expensive" one - that would be the ideal - but if it gets too much I'll buy a cheapo one and bide my time for a more sophisticated breaker