kwh

I test rode an early one, I was seriously intending to buy one around the time that I bought that first GT, but it was uncomfortable and looked cheaply made so I gave it a miss. In hindsight I should have bought it! However, when I was in the marjet for the current GT, the FJR looked very underspecced and uninspiring.

I held off buying a new bike until this was launched because I liked the pictures and expected it to be good. The damned thing doesn't even have factory heated grips! The screen is too low as well. Very nice gimmicky keyless ignition, but no toys and not even a particularly good bike, despite massive price tag. Looks nice, though.

I wanted one of these when I realised that the FJR wasn't for me. But I insisted on test riding it before ponying up £14 large, and the best Honda could offer me was five minutes round the block in traffic on a non-ABS model if I went to their Kew Bridge branch. So I made a reason to travel 250 miles and turned up there on a quiet weekday when staff exceeded customers 3 - 1. to be told 'We do only do escorted test rides on Fridays, come back then!'.

In hindsight I'm glad I didn't. It's a very nice bike that had a lot of serious teething problems, all fixed by Honda, but all a pain in the backside, doesn't have a few 'nice to have' toys but does, very occasionally, very suddenly and rather rudely decide to tank-slap its riders to death. Which is why plod have sold all theirs off and got rid.

Proof that you've not ridden any of the above bikes. The FJR and the Pan definitely klunk if you change gear clumsily on the move, or when you engage first gear. I assume that the GTR does as well.

That's shaft drive for you.

No, and no.

I have a direct question for you. Have you ever ridden a 2005 or later K1200R, K1200S or K1200GT before condemning them?