Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Which day are you going Saturday or Sunday?

In Portugal I discovered what the point of a separate lid and ski goggles was. Goggles are sealed around the eyes so they keep the damn dust out! Never quite understood why so many enduro lids didn't just have a visor. Dust is not such a problem in this country, too wet, so I'll probably just buy a lid with a removable visor so I have the option of goggles when I go on holiday.