-Ralph-

Well, wouldn't do that myself, but respect for admitting to it on this forum. We seem to be getting more tolerant, but not so long ago you'd have got completely pasted for admitting that on here.

I just bought on of those airflow jackets and a pair of Kevlar jeans for a trip to Portugal next week, with full CE armour throughout, but not so convinced on abrasion resistance on either Jacket or Jeans. Not as good protection as what I would normally wear, but I'll be well aware of that when I'm riding, and that's about as low as I'll go in the protection stakes.

But look at the dress code of one of the guys I'll be riding with in Portugal, he'll be constantly taking the p1ss as I sweat in all my armoured gear...

I dare say I will be in shorts and t-shirt when using the bike to get from A to B in the evenings around the village, but not at any more than push bike speeds. The locals will be helmetless round the village, and won't be at all concerned about how much they've had to drink either! They wobble along pi$$ed, and sometimes fall off, but always seem to get there with no more than a grazed knee.