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northwind · 17-12-05, 05:27 PM

The only time I'm really convinced it makes a big difference is in really bad visibility... Especially from behind. Sat at the lights or riding slowly on a dark road...

One thing, if you want to wear hi-viz, wear hi-viz... Don't just buy one of those useless yellow waistcoats from Oxfrod or Motrax. The Sam Brown belts you see in bike shops tend to be no better either. Marginally reflective is all you can call them. "Slight viz" maybe. Instead, go to a place that supplies real visibility gear for trades or emergency services, the difference is huge. To understand the difference, look at the striping on police or ambulance gear- it almost hurts te eyes, it's so visible.

One of the stronger arguments for the "anti" side is that if someone doesn't see your lights, they won't see your vest. That's often right I think... Until you crash or break down on a dark road. The second you come off the bike in dark gear you're just a shadow. This is one place where if can really be life or death.

17-12-05, 05:27 PM	#35
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,082	The only time I'm really convinced it makes a big difference is in really bad visibility... Especially from behind. Sat at the lights or riding slowly on a dark road... One thing, if you want to wear hi-viz, wear hi-viz... Don't just buy one of those useless yellow waistcoats from Oxfrod or Motrax. The Sam Brown belts you see in bike shops tend to be no better either. Marginally reflective is all you can call them. "Slight viz" maybe. Instead, go to a place that supplies real visibility gear for trades or emergency services, the difference is huge. To understand the difference, look at the striping on police or ambulance gear- it almost hurts te eyes, it's so visible. One of the stronger arguments for the "anti" side is that if someone doesn't see your lights, they won't see your vest. That's often right I think... Until you crash or break down on a dark road. The second you come off the bike in dark gear you're just a shadow. This is one place where if can really be life or death. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"