Fordward

The reason I didn't go Beinglas for this year was they have put up a gate over the entrance which is closed at 11pm.

Despite promises we would be respectful and quiet, they wouldn't give us a key.

So people staying at the Drovers and people staying at the campsite would have to be split up at 10:45pm and head back to thier respective accommodations from wherever they were socialising.

The bar at the campsite now also closes at 11pm, the outside area where the fires used to be closed, and people told it's time to go back to thier tents/wigwams.

We pretty much have exhausted our options for a contained single site in Scotland that ticks all the boxes I think, unless it is much further North.

Further North I'd need to take a week off make it my main biking trip of the year, which is fine I guess as I'm not going to France, Spain or Portugal, which was the point of this thread I suppose, trying to figure out what I am doing for biking trips next year.

I'm not organising either though, as the pack I produced last year is the limit of what can be achieved from 400 miles away. For instance I could never have recce'd and arranged the lunch stop that Bibio did.

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