Ok ok

Leather gear is all nice and good for skin saving protection and as far as leather pants go , well i like my jeans better and thought about wearing Bohn Adventure pants under jeans ....anyone have any thoughts on them??

http://www.bohnarmor.com/catalog/pro....php?prod=BGLA

However i did find a pair of Leather Pants that caught my eye and don't think it looks too bad (as in power ranger look) but still expensive enough.
Anyway i found these at a discount of 250 dollars (they retail for 400+ on other sites).....I'm hoping someone here has a pair and can give some input on them http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...her-Pants.aspx

Thank You

Never seen the Bohn stuff in the UK personally, I did see a very similar item at the NEC bike show last year though & thought of trying it but never got round to it, they also did a matching armoured shirt, it's the abrasion resistance that gives leather the edge in my mind.

[Luckypants]

Well those bohn pants look like they will solve the lack of impact protection wearing jeans, but just how good is the armour? How much impact protection do these give?

Given that you wear some armoured pants under your jeans to save breaking bones from impact, what you gonna do about your jeans disintegrating as you slide down the road? Bohn pants wont help in a slide as they are made from lycra, nor will your denim jeans. So I would always advocate leather.

But if you really must have denim, have you considered the biking specific denims with kevlar built in? Hood jeans for example? This might give the best of both worlds - those that have them swear by them.

EDIT: I mean kevlar type jeans in ADDITION to the armoured bohn pants

Lucky Pants +1

Impact protection is very much a game of luck, if you'd have broken your leg wearing just denim jeans the chances are high you'd also break your leg wearing leathers or body armour as well. Armour is pretty good at preventing, or more realistically minimising, bruising, possibly the odd hairline fracture, and maybe if you're lucky you might avoid an artery rupture. Hip armour in particular, personally I always seem to land on my ar5e and the energy from the fall from a bike when you land on your side is pretty much the same if you were stationary as if you were going at a zillion miles per hour - but that energy at standstill is enough to put a dent in your pelvis if you're unlucky, hip armour just seems to reduce that to bruising levels. I guess knee armour can prevent patella damage from bashing your knee against bits of bike as you tumble down the road, but that too will be easily overwhelmed by significant impact such as knee versus car at speed.

The only armour which really stands much chance at preventing major injury is your helmet, and obviously it's not practical to make body armour up to the same weight and thickness whilst maintaining flexibilty. Body armour does a good job at minimising consequential injuries, those which in themselves are unlikely to be life threatening but will sure as hell hurt a lot and added together could become life threatening.

Where it's really at with your legs is as LuckyPants says, abrasion resistance. Skin, flesh and bone grind down very very quickly when applied to tarmac at speed. And that loss of tissue and blood will easily kill. Kevlar lined denim jeans are ace. Hood jeans over here, might not get them stateside but I'm pretty sure Draggin jeans are available worldwide and they are similarly well regarded (though personally I think the Hood ones are a little bit better).

I can see your points and agree with you but would you spend $400 for a pair of leather pants (that's what i payed for the leather jacket)? ...I've nearly ordered a pair of Draggin jeans but the problem is fit , if they arrive and don't fit right , then I'm stuck with them .....And now that i took a closer look at the leather pant link i posted they only have them in size small which derails my savings an force me to buy from elsewhere at $420 dollars http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=3389

this sport is not cheap in the least but I'm willing to go with the better stuff, after all you guys are experienced and i trust your judgement

[yorkie_chris]

Saw a thread about one guy who loved wearing jeans so much he would wear them armor kecks, some other type with kevlar, then jeans, then sliders strapped on over top.

Seemed like a total waste of time to me, you're going to look a tool wearing lycra pants and sweat a lot, so just wear leathers. You won't get better protection than that.

I bought some teknic leather pants in summer for £35, quality is good so far, no signs of wear even after a couple of thousand miles and a little crash. You don't have to spend silly money.

[BanannaMan]

If you are shopping for leathers (and textiles) in the US try newenough.com
They have excellent sizing charts (they do their own) and accept returns if the size doesn't fit.

My last leather jacket I bought....I was between sizes and unsure which to order.
On the phone with Paul at new enough....he asks my measurements then actually gets the 2 jackets out and measures them himself (while I'm on the phone) to ensure I got the right one.
Great folks!!!...and great prices as well.

Check out their closeouts and e-bay sales too.
I got my new pants on closeout for about $150

http://www.newenough.com

+1 on Luckypants advise.
Crsahed in July in leather pants and a textile jacket.
The pants were quite skuffed up but survived intact.
The textile jacket was ripped to shreds.
Had I slid any further I would have been eat up with road rash.

I have red route kevlar biking jeans.
Extra padding around the hips and ars*e
CE approved armour, also removeable on the knees.
I like them alot better than my textiles, havent got round to leathers yet.
When they come, they'll probily feel v. baggy and dont fit right over the knees ect.
Seems to be fine when you get on the bike.

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by hang man

I can see your points and agree with you but would you spend $400 for a pair of leather pants (that's what i payed for the leather jacket)? ...

Yes if they were of quality that warranted that money, I am eyeing up some Arlen Ness leathers as I type..... I paid £300 ($600 then) for my current leather suit 5 years ago, I have covered over 30K miles in it and crashed fairly spectacularly in it. Despite all this and hitting a road sign in the crash, it is still good with replacement armour after the crash. Will your jeans be the same after all this time and will you be in one piece after such a crash?

Originally Posted by BanannaMan

If you are shopping for leathers (and textiles) in the US try newenough.com
They have excellent sizing charts (they do their own) and accept returns if the size doesn't fit.

My last leather jacket I bought....I was between sizes and unsure which to order.
On the phone with Paul at new enough....he asks my measurements then actually gets the 2 jackets out and measures them himself (while I'm on the phone) to ensure I got the right one.
Great folks!!!...and great prices as well.

Check out their closeouts and e-bay sales too.
I got my new pants on closeout for about $150

http://www.newenough.com

+1 on Luckypants advise.
Crsahed in July in leather pants and a textile jacket.
The pants were quite skuffed up but survived intact.
The textile jacket was ripped to shreds.
Had I slid any further I would have been eat up with road rash.

Yep , i actually bought some stuff from them but they don't have an extensive collection like other sites.
Take a look at www.sportbiketrackgear.com they have some awesome closeout sales and year end sales too (believe it or not i payed $400 for my jacket elsewhere and they have it on sale for $235 )

I like them alot better than my textiles, havent got round to leathers yet.
When they come, they'll probily feel v. baggy and dont fit right over the knees ect.

That's what I'm afraid of too , I've already returned a pair of Scorpion Deuce Pants (Textile) , they were exactly as you describe it.

Yes if they were of quality that warranted that money, I am eyeing up some Arlen Ness leathers as I type..... I paid £300 ($600 then) for my current leather suit 5 years ago, I have covered over 30K miles in it and crashed fairly spectacularly in it. Despite all this and hitting a road sign in the crash, it is still good with replacement armour after the crash. Will your jeans be the same after all this time and will you be in one piece after such a crash?

I trust your opinion , I've placed an order for the leather pants...found them on sale on a different site for $300
http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/...E--640736.html