Travellers

How can somebody be classed as a traveller when they have built a fechin bungalow on ground without permission.They have no more intention of travelling than flying in the air---I travel more than they do but I have to pay rates and taxes for us to supply schooling and medical health for them
Do any bona fida travellers actually exist?

i.e.Crayshill --vs-- Basildon Council

petrol bomb, that normally disposes of buildings and its contents..

I dont understand our permanent travelers sites either.. paid for by us..

this is going to be a long thread, hard hats on, take cover......

Originally Posted by The Idle Biker

this is going to be a long thread, hard hats on, take cover......

not really, think the op has the same opinion as most..

do ya like dawgs

Originally Posted by davepreston

do ya like dawgs

As a matter of fact...

[Littlepeahead]

It really REALLY annoys me that my Essex council tax pays for these scumbags. Wouldn't it be great if we could all work cash in hand, pay no mortgage or rent, income tax, NI, Council tax, water rates etc. yet still expect to get free school places, medical care and benefits. They probably even use the Blue Cross vet for their horrible vicious dogs.

Did I mention I'm not keen on travellers?

Permanent travellers site = all of them in the one place as opposed to being scattered all over the place make S***holes of numerous places.
the kids never went to school - all home schooled, never registered with docs or dentists and very few on benefits. These guys have a culture of not wanting to be trace (or accountable)
Yes it can make it like a ghetto or no mans land but there are very rarely any problems with them and they sort out their own problems.
I had a good working relationship with our site despite being told never apporach them as they will never want help. Our lot were pleasent and helpful Happy for somewhere to call home with help if needed. the place was always clean - cleaner than the council streets!! its downfall was when another lot turned up and wrecked the place to the extent that it had to be closed and we're back to travellers all overthe place again.

As for building without permission - it happens a lot more than you think after all who is really going to complain and complain for the next 20 years.
Technically in our house there was a muck with Lands registery and we had to sit for 20 years praying we didn't get complaints or a contest to the land despite buying the house.

My understanding is that the travelling community attribute them becoming static to "the man" making it too hard for them to find sites when travelling. Personally, I don't know what the problem is; I was stealth camping less than a week ago and I do it all the time and have never had any problem or be moved on. Oh wait, maybe it's because when I travel I camp out of site of the road, don't stay in the same place for more than one night. I arrive after dark, am gone before the sun is up properly, leave the site tidier than when I found it and whilst I'm there, make a point of going unseen and unheard.