Sprint ST - SV650.org

11-01-05, 05:23 PM

After some further consideration about this 2nd bike thing (I had virtually already decided on a Vtec VFR) I thought a bit more about the new Sprint ST. To be honest I have been looking for an excuse to own a Triumph for a while, but the combination of the seat height and width put me off the Daytona as I was struggling to get my feet down on both sides.

What has worried me is the build quality. The 2 at the NEC were really shoddy. Plastics were coming away and they looked cheap. I was hoping to get a better look at the London show in a couple of weeks.

Well this morning I decided to call Jack Lilley's (local dealer). The 2 machines at the NEC (and GMex) will be the machines at the London show.

This particular dealer is offering a refundable deposit on the ST and so far have "sold" 17 units (subject to a 2 hour test ride).

Bikes will be in the shops in Feb, but it seems the demand is higher than availability, so anybody who goes in that direction may have to wait unless they cough up the deposit of £250. It could be the end of the summer before they are freely available without deposits. Personally, I wouldn't pay a deposit without knowing when I'll get my bike.

If the build quality is still as crap they'll be giving a lot of pepole their deposits back. Just wondered if anybody here is seriously considering one.

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11-01-05, 07:50 PM

Steve, I went up to Gt DUNMOW and had a look at the 955 04 model which he has two of in blue £6999 Complete with luggage and heated grips Have ridden my mates 955iDaytona and from what I can gather they are very similar [6mph diff in top end] although i must admit
the ST was very comfortable and as it is slightly detuned better mid range

In comparison the new 1050 is coming out at nearly£8200 with very little dif in performance

P.S. He has a similar spec 2nd hand 03 4000miles for about £5400

12-01-05, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jelster

If the build quality is still as crap they'll be giving a lot of pepole their deposits back. Just wondered if anybody here is seriously considering one.
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Yes, I really fancied the new ST, until I went to the NEC. I was very disappointed in what I saw. I do like the outgoing ST and I do want to own a Triumph - but I'm currently looking at a new V-Strom instead.

In fact, I came away from the NEC thinking that the new ST was an expensive bike - and the new BMW K1200S was an absolute bargain, but press reports of chocolate camshafts have rather put me off.

12-01-05, 09:03 AM

The kwak KLV gets a few bits that make it slighter better than a v-strom..

12-01-05, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by zx6man

The kwak KLV gets a few bits that make it slighter better than a v-strom..

But it costs a few quid more, and as far as I am aware, comes in orange or orange.

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12-01-05, 09:31 AM

Its got much better clocks, handguards, and an adjustable screen, which I thought was worth the extra dosh....I do like the orange myself tho...

12-01-05, 09:46 AM

Remember that the ones that they are showing are pre-production models. I'd put down the deposit, get the test ride and then decide. Jack Lilley's isn't too far from where I work (Isleworth), so I might take a long lunch / afternoon off 'sick' to go down and chat to them and maybe put a deposit down on the Speed Triple, subject to test ride.

12-01-05, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wyrdness

Remember that the ones that they are showing are pre-production models. I'd put down the deposit, get the test ride and then decide. Jack Lilley's isn't too far from where I work (Isleworth), so I might take a long lunch / afternoon off 'sick' to go down and chat to them and maybe put a deposit down on the Speed Triple, subject to test ride.

I have been quoted by 2 Trumpet dealers that they are NOT pre production units. At this moment in time the VFR is a much better option considering the amount of miles it will be doing. A sports tourer should easily be capable of 20k a year, the ST looked like it would fall apart after half of that.

The Speed triple has far less plastic and looks a lot better made.

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12-01-05, 10:03 AM

I'll reserve judgement until I get back from the Ally Pally.

12-01-05, 10:16 AM

Steve

Honda build quality is legendary but you might as well buy a Volvo as far as I'm concerned.

Let me know if you wanna test-ride on a REAL bike and I'll let you have go on mine.

I know it's not the same as the new ST, but you'll get a feel for the 'character' - all 123 bhp of it!

Ask Mark. You don't buy a Triumph for the same reasons as other bikes (I've discovered). It's a completely different - and IMHO better - ownership experience.

PS: I'm serious about the test ride.

11-01-05, 05:23 PM	#1
Jelster Guest Posts: n/a	Sprint ST After some further consideration about this 2nd bike thing (I had virtually already decided on a Vtec VFR) I thought a bit more about the new Sprint ST. To be honest I have been looking for an excuse to own a Triumph for a while, but the combination of the seat height and width put me off the Daytona as I was struggling to get my feet down on both sides. What has worried me is the build quality. The 2 at the NEC were really shoddy. Plastics were coming away and they looked cheap. I was hoping to get a better look at the London show in a couple of weeks. Well this morning I decided to call Jack Lilley's (local dealer). The 2 machines at the NEC (and GMex) will be the machines at the London show. This particular dealer is offering a refundable deposit on the ST and so far have "sold" 17 units (subject to a 2 hour test ride). Bikes will be in the shops in Feb, but it seems the demand is higher than availability, so anybody who goes in that direction may have to wait unless they cough up the deposit of £250. It could be the end of the summer before they are freely available without deposits. Personally, I wouldn't pay a deposit without knowing when I'll get my bike. If the build quality is still as crap they'll be giving a lot of pepole their deposits back. Just wondered if anybody here is seriously considering one. .

11-01-05, 07:50 PM	#2
Dicky Ticker Guest Posts: n/a	As per Steve, I went up to Gt DUNMOW and had a look at the 955 04 model which he has two of in blue £6999 Complete with luggage and heated grips Have ridden my mates 955iDaytona and from what I can gather they are very similar [6mph diff in top end] although i must admit the ST was very comfortable and as it is slightly detuned better mid range In comparison the new 1050 is coming out at nearly£8200 with very little dif in performance P.S. He has a similar spec 2nd hand 03 4000miles for about £5400

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12-01-05, 09:03 AM	#4
zx6man Guest Posts: n/a	The kwak KLV gets a few bits that make it slighter better than a v-strom..

12-01-05, 09:31 AM	#6
zx6man Guest Posts: n/a	Its got much better clocks, handguards, and an adjustable screen, which I thought was worth the extra dosh....I do like the orange myself tho...

12-01-05, 09:46 AM	#7
wyrdness Guest Posts: n/a	Remember that the ones that they are showing are pre-production models. I'd put down the deposit, get the test ride and then decide. Jack Lilley's isn't too far from where I work (Isleworth), so I might take a long lunch / afternoon off 'sick' to go down and chat to them and maybe put a deposit down on the Speed Triple, subject to test ride.

12-01-05, 10:03 AM	#9
AlanSv Guest Posts: n/a	I'll reserve judgement until I get back from the Ally Pally.

12-01-05, 10:16 AM	#10
howardr Guest Posts: n/a	Steve Honda build quality is legendary but you might as well buy a Volvo as far as I'm concerned. Let me know if you wanna test-ride on a REAL bike and I'll let you have go on mine. I know it's not the same as the new ST, but you'll get a feel for the 'character' - all 123 bhp of it! Ask Mark. You don't buy a Triumph for the same reasons as other bikes (I've discovered). It's a completely different - and IMHO better - ownership experience. PS: I'm serious about the test ride.