Counter steering?

Hello again all, since i picked up my sv i've been slowly upping the pace and finding my feet with it and a few people ive spoke to have been talking about counter steering, now i know the basic premice of it but im confused as to the black art in general, any useful pointers???

you are probably doing it without being aware that you are doing it. when i started IAM they went on about it and I thought it was a wind up. instructor took me to a quiet straight road and told me to sit up straight and put extra pressure on left handlebar, bike drifted right after having done that a few times we did it slowly round corners, tell me to lean shoulder in. it works but i dont concentrate on actually doing it any more, i think its just one of those naturally occuring things

Yeah seems to be the way, just read i wikipedia article on it (busy at work again) and it does sound like what i do naturally anyway, still always worry im missing a trick!

If you are going round corners faster than 5Mph then I would say you are doing it already as kitkat says.

you can actively counter steer if you want by gentle pushing on the bar to help the bike lean for want of a better word.

Say you are going to be going round a right hander then push forward on the right bar.

try this out on a quite road so you can see/feel the effects first and start off with gentle slight pushes at first as only a little movement is needed.

You will already be doing it, but to understand it can save you from tricky situations!

The one and only thing my dad has ever told me is "if you are running wide, push on the inside handlebar". I've run into corners a bit too fast for my abilities a few times, but my dads advice has got me through and out the other side unscathed every time.

Matt

You are doing it, it is impossible to go round a corner fast otherwise without falling off. Useful tip which helped me feel more secure is putting more weight on the outside peg forcing you to lean in more thus faster corners. I must admit i struggle with nerve as i only recently passed and i cant help feeling the bike will fall away under me but i will get there eventually!

Originally Posted by kitkat

you are probably doing it without being aware that you are doing it.

You do. Its been proven that you cant turn the bike with fixed (i.e. no stearing) handle bars. So you DO do it. Most noticably youll do it when changing from full lean one direction to full in the opposite.

I always tend to ride this way, keeping myself upright while taking a bend. Basically its more leaning in the opposite direction to the way the bike is leaning, in effect cancelling out the lean on your body and keeping your centre of gravity on the bike.

Originally Posted by garyholc

I always tend to ride this way, keeping myself upright while taking a bend. Basically its more leaning in the opposite direction to the way the bike is leaning, in effect cancelling out the lean on your body and keeping your centre of gravity on the bike.

That is not countersteering! What you are describing is the way people ride dirt/motard type bikes i.e pushing the bike away from them

Originally Posted by lukemillar

That is not countersteering! What you are describing is the way people ride dirt/motard type bikes i.e pushing the bike away from them

+1.
That is done to keep the centre of gravity central as you have FAR less grip on mud.
Similar principal to cycling in mud.

You can counter steering regardless of where you position your body, from either bolt upright, or hanging off the bike trying to get your knee-down.