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Old 10-12-08, 08:00 PM   #1
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Default Winter tyres?

Being an all weather rider I am finding that the sport tyres on my CBR600RR are giving me absolutely no grip in these cold wet conditions. I have had numerous "close calls" and the worst had to be tonight on the motorway:

I was in the middle lane of the motorway doing 65+ and slowly overtaking a truck on my left. As I was passing him he clicked his indicator on to turn into my lane. Not wanting to take any chances I gave it a bit of gas (not that much though) to get out of the way and lost all traction on the rear for the next few seconds. All was okay cause I controlled the slide and regained traction but it got me thinking that riding in winter on sport tyres is probably not the smartest thing.

So the question is - does anyone here changes their tyres for the crappy conditions? Now obviously a number of you guys will have sport touring tyres on the SV but those of you who have sport tyres - what do you do?
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Old 10-12-08, 08:16 PM   #2
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I'm finding my Michi PR2s pretty grippy.

Can feel the odd time when the back starts to go cornering, but its never anything major, no big twitches apart from when I've been going daft... yet.

Though that said I had the back break traction in a straight line today aswell.
But in fairness I'd basically pinned it in 2 up though 3rd.
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Old 10-12-08, 08:19 PM   #3
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I put Sport Touring tyres on my GSXR.

What Sport tyres have you got on your CBR ? Diablo Corsa III or Michellin Pilot Power II's give pretty good wet grip and not to bad in the cold, but the OEM Bridgestone 014's it had on were utter ****e in the wet / cold...
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Old 10-12-08, 08:25 PM   #4
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+1 on the michellin PR2

only really giving twitches on greasy salty dampness... but i have 1/2 the power
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Old 10-12-08, 09:05 PM   #5
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Not many sports tyres will be getting enough heat in them in current conditions. A good choice would be the Michelin PR2s that everyone loves. I rode my Daytona 955i through a winter on them and they were great.
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I'm really wondering if I should get some proper winter tyres for the cold and then switch to better sport tyres later in the year.
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Old 10-12-08, 09:49 PM   #7
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+2 on the Michelins!

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I'm really wondering if I should get some proper winter tyres for the cold and then switch to better sport tyres later in the year.
Just fit a set of Sport Touring tyres, all the grip you'll ever need, hot or cold.

My GSXR feels so much nicer to ride on the Metzler Z6's I've got on it now than it did on the Sporty stuff. Its because they have a much wider operating range of temp they get heat into them and keep it.

Whereas anything more Sporty, you have to ride hard to keep the temperature in them and when the pace drops a bit the tyres loose heat and then they dont give grip... when its freezing out like it is at the moment they'll never get hot enough in the first place, wihch is why you are slippy sliding...
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Old 10-12-08, 10:52 PM   #9
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Did you see the article in either Bike or Ride a few months back? They did the same route, once on Dunlop Roadsmarts and once on Qualifiers, their test pilot was faster on the Roadsmarts!

I think there's an argument for sort of middle-sticky tyres on the road like the standard Diablo or Sportec or whatever, just to give you more margin for error and, maybe, confidence but racey rubber is just wasted for most people other than total headbangers, worse than that, it's actually worse than cheaper, less sticky rubber since it needs to be hot to work. Modern sport touring tyres are amazing frankly.
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Old 11-12-08, 10:13 AM   #10
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Changed from Vipers to Storms last year as the Vipers were dreadful in the cold and greasy wet over winter. Like riding on marbles, no confidence in the front. Could not believe the difference changing back to ST tyres made. Keep there profile longer so you get more cornering pleasure.

Plenty of grip for summer on the road too ,although on the SV the tyre out performs my tired forks and a 70bhp Vtwin should not be troubling a rear.

Would not go back to track/sport stuff on the road. ST tyres are different class these days.
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