Spineless - SV650.org

12-02-09, 04:41 PM

I can't believe we're not allowing this bloke in to the country. ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7885918.stm?lss )

Even more bizarre is that you can be prosecuted in Holland for saying anything critical about Islam. A religion which couldn't be more critical about anyone who's a 'kaffar', or non-believer.

Politicians are so frickin' spineless.

12-02-09, 05:02 PM

If you google 'fitna' you'll get the movie that caused the controversy.

12-02-09, 05:02 PM

Granted some of the quotes in Fitna may be metaphorical or taken out of context but there is (what seems a not minute but smallish) minority it reflects, & may depict some truth for some of these. Although I strongly disagree with some of his opinions I think if it'd been up to me I'd have let him in & had a discussion.

12-02-09, 05:04 PM

We should never be afraid of freedom of speech.

12-02-09, 05:04 PM

although we let the **** with the hook in

Bluepete · 12-02-09, 05:06 PM

This was discussed on the Jremy Vine show on Radio 2. I wish freedom of speech meant just that! Yes, he may be controversial, but I would rather hear his argument than have the Gov't tell me I can't.

Pete

12-02-09, 05:09 PM

He's not allowed in for being anti-islamic.

Has no one noticed that Islam is Anti-everything-but Islam?!

ophic · 12-02-09, 05:09 PM

Just goes to show, blowing people up works. Now everyone is too scared they might offend the delicate sensibilities of these terrorist groups.

dizzyblonde · 12-02-09, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

He's not allowed in for being anti-islamic.

Has no one noticed that Islam is Anti-everything-but Islam?!

ooooooo you can't say things like that

you'll get the thought police going

Bluepete · 12-02-09, 05:15 PM

We had a talk from a Muslim Inspector a few weeks ago at work. It was very interesting in that, from his point of view, and that of Muslims in general, the Qur'an teaches a peacfull approach to life. His view was that "extremists" were mis-interpreting the Qur'an to meet their own ideals.

The Muslim Council of Britain are clear on that point. Islam is a peacefull belief system, not just a religion, more a way of life.

12-02-09, 04:41 PM	#1
gettin2dizzy Guest Posts: n/a	Spineless I can't believe we're not allowing this bloke in to the country. ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7885918.stm?lss ) Even more bizarre is that you can be prosecuted in Holland for saying anything critical about Islam. A religion which couldn't be more critical about anyone who's a 'kaffar', or non-believer. Politicians are so frickin' spineless.

12-02-09, 05:02 PM	#2
gettin2dizzy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Spineless If you google 'fitna' you'll get the movie that caused the controversy.

12-02-09, 05:02 PM	#3
_drummer_ Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Spineless Granted some of the quotes in Fitna may be metaphorical or taken out of context but there is (what seems a not minute but smallish) minority it reflects, & may depict some truth for some of these. Although I strongly disagree with some of his opinions I think if it'd been up to me I'd have let him in & had a discussion. Last edited by _drummer_; 12-02-09 at 05:05 PM.

12-02-09, 05:04 PM	#4
Ed Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Spineless We should never be afraid of freedom of speech.

12-02-09, 05:04 PM	#5
hovis Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Spineless although we let the **** with the hook in

12-02-09, 05:06 PM	#6
Bluepete Member Mega Poster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ex motorcyclist Posts: 1,961	Re: Spineless This was discussed on the Jremy Vine show on Radio 2. I wish freedom of speech meant just that! Yes, he may be controversial, but I would rather hear his argument than have the Gov't tell me I can't. Pete __________________ https://www.facebook.com/pete.philli...04?ref=tn_tnmn

12-02-09, 05:09 PM	#7
gettin2dizzy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Spineless He's not allowed in for being anti-islamic. Has no one noticed that Islam is Anti-everything-but Islam?!

12-02-09, 05:09 PM	#8
ophic Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whyteleafe Posts: 3,395	Re: Spineless Just goes to show, blowing people up works. Now everyone is too scared they might offend the delicate sensibilities of these terrorist groups. __________________ Silver SV650SK3, Fuel exhaust

12-02-09, 05:15 PM	#10
Bluepete Member Mega Poster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ex motorcyclist Posts: 1,961	Re: Spineless We had a talk from a Muslim Inspector a few weeks ago at work. It was very interesting in that, from his point of view, and that of Muslims in general, the Qur'an teaches a peacfull approach to life. His view was that "extremists" were mis-interpreting the Qur'an to meet their own ideals. The Muslim Council of Britain are clear on that point. Islam is a peacefull belief system, not just a religion, more a way of life. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/pete.philli...04?ref=tn_tnmn