Amsoil car oil in Pointy? - SV650.org

25-03-14, 11:26 PM

Hey guys, I just trade up from a GS500F to the SV. It's a 2005 SV650S with a touch over 5000 miles on the OD. I'm the third owner with the previous owner putting around 3K in 3 yrs on the bike.

After the transaction, the seller gave me a few odds and ends, including some extra oil. I didn't think much of it and went on my merry way. I just looked at the container and find it's Amsoil 10W-30 car oil!

I have no idea if that's what this bike has been running from new and the guy just continued using it, or he just started using it. All he told me is that he changed the oil 500 miles ago (last season).

An oil change was in order anyway just as standard practice, but do you think there was any damage done to the bike using this oil? I will say this, the thing shifted like butter, so who knows. I'll be changing over to Amsoil 10W40 bike oil as soon as it warms up a bit.

Sid Squid · 25-03-14, 11:51 PM

There are several different Amsoil 10w30 car oils, it might be fine, it might not, but unless I were exactly sure of what was in there and for how long I would change it, and re-establish the service interval for certain.
I'm not doubting the honesty of the chap you bought it from, but starting again gives you a baseline from which to work and it's the best way of establishing the correct service intervals.

25-03-14, 11:56 PM

The bottle reads OE Original Equipment SAE 10W-30 for gasoline engines. The round symbol reads API service SN and Resource Conserving. I'm surprised the thing shifted at all knowing what I know now

Yeah, That oil is as good as gone when it gets above freezing. It's been a tough winter and now spring here in Minnesota. 8 degrees this morning!

NTECUK · 26-03-14, 08:46 AM

Motorcycle oil is especially developed to work with the wet clutch.
Car oil can make it slip as it has different friction modifiers.
So

26-03-14, 10:41 AM

Car oil is not designed to be used in gearboxes..or with wet clutches.

NTECUK · 26-03-14, 10:58 AM

Oh no I've got it I'm my 1973 minis gearbox lol

26-03-14, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NTECUK

Oh no I've got it I'm my 1973 minis gearbox lol

Well thats fooked it then

NTECUK · 26-03-14, 11:25 AM

mind you in sure if MattECU had some car oil in his old SV the outcome of togmie might have been different for him

26-03-14, 11:57 AM

I've never used anything but automotive oil in my motorcycles (starting with a 1970 Ducati). I've been using mostly Mobile 1 since 1992, sometimes other brands of synthetic car oils.
Never had any problems with clutches or anything else.

NTECUK · 26-03-14, 12:29 PM

To be honest the friction in a wet clutch is different to what the additive in car oils are designed to help with.
But I'd not chance it myself

25-03-14, 11:26 PM	#1
Hovermn Guest Posts: n/a	Amsoil car oil in Pointy? Hey guys, I just trade up from a GS500F to the SV. It's a 2005 SV650S with a touch over 5000 miles on the OD. I'm the third owner with the previous owner putting around 3K in 3 yrs on the bike. After the transaction, the seller gave me a few odds and ends, including some extra oil. I didn't think much of it and went on my merry way. I just looked at the container and find it's Amsoil 10W-30 car oil! I have no idea if that's what this bike has been running from new and the guy just continued using it, or he just started using it. All he told me is that he changed the oil 500 miles ago (last season). An oil change was in order anyway just as standard practice, but do you think there was any damage done to the bike using this oil? I will say this, the thing shifted like butter, so who knows. I'll be changing over to Amsoil 10W40 bike oil as soon as it warms up a bit.

25-03-14, 11:51 PM	#2
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Re: Amsoil car oil in Pointy? There are several different Amsoil 10w30 car oils, it might be fine, it might not, but unless I were exactly sure of what was in there and for how long I would change it, and re-establish the service interval for certain. I'm not doubting the honesty of the chap you bought it from, but starting again gives you a baseline from which to work and it's the best way of establishing the correct service intervals. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

25-03-14, 11:56 PM	#3
Hovermn Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Amsoil car oil in Pointy? The bottle reads OE Original Equipment SAE 10W-30 for gasoline engines. The round symbol reads API service SN and Resource Conserving. I'm surprised the thing shifted at all knowing what I know now Yeah, That oil is as good as gone when it gets above freezing. It's been a tough winter and now spring here in Minnesota. 8 degrees this morning!

26-03-14, 08:46 AM	#4
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: Amsoil car oil in Pointy? Motorcycle oil is especially developed to work with the wet clutch. Car oil can make it slip as it has different friction modifiers. So __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.

26-03-14, 10:41 AM	#5
SV650Racer Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Amsoil car oil in Pointy? Car oil is not designed to be used in gearboxes..or with wet clutches.

26-03-14, 10:58 AM	#6
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: Amsoil car oil in Pointy? Oh no I've got it I'm my 1973 minis gearbox lol __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.

26-03-14, 11:25 AM	#8
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: Amsoil car oil in Pointy? mind you in sure if MattECU had some car oil in his old SV the outcome of togmie might have been different for him __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.

26-03-14, 11:57 AM	#9
wideguy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Amsoil car oil in Pointy? I've never used anything but automotive oil in my motorcycles (starting with a 1970 Ducati). I've been using mostly Mobile 1 since 1992, sometimes other brands of synthetic car oils. Never had any problems with clutches or anything else.

26-03-14, 12:29 PM	#10
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: Amsoil car oil in Pointy? To be honest the friction in a wet clutch is different to what the additive in car oils are designed to help with. But I'd not chance it myself __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.

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