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No not how unsung are they from saving dopey muppets like me from electrocution...
The ST2 has an accessories socket on it, which the fuse was missing from. It was a 3 amp. Last night I wired in the new socket with a new 3 amp fuse, and plugged in the air bed inflator, and the fuse popped, it transpires the air bed pump is 3amp. Now I heathenistically bodged it with a wire bridging the fuse and of course it works, but how much under rated are fuses, i.e do they go at say 2.7 amp or 3.1 amp? As I am only going to power this 3 amp fan and the sat nav from it at separate times I am more than likely just going to put a 5 amp fuse in it and let it be? cue ducati fireworks? |
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Most fuses unless they are very high quality and very closely specified have a tolerance that is surprisingly high. Usually that's above the nominal value not below.
What you need to consider is that the current is rarely constant, you were using a pump, if that's a DC motor - and it almost certainly is - at a standstill there is a dead short across the input wires = a very high starting current. Fuses are available in varying types, such as slow action which would be useful in such an application, it won't allow a constant over current but won't pop on a transient spike. 5 amp will very probably be OK, you would need to examine the cabling and any switchgear or componentry and use a fuse that's suitable to protect that. A fuse for the individual equipment is a different matter, that may well be significantly lower rated.
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![]() ![]() ![]() It's not worth risking your bikes wiring for it. You'd be better having a look for a low amp air pump. Or just wire up a simple relay circuit for a new accessory socket with wiring that can handle more current. |
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I fully understand the risk of the bikes wiring, but the appliance i was trying to run was 3amp.. the fues in the box was 3 amp but it blew..??? Hence my question which mr sid explained very nicely. So if the appliance was pulling 3amp across a 5amp fuse the wiring would be fine.. sheeesh give me some credit, I'm not likely to plug a little kettle in and wonder why the bike went up in flames!! And its not like the bridge is a permanent feature. ![]() |
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Sorry didn't mean for that to sound patronising. Go for it if you want, but the fuse blew for a reason. It's not something I'd do when there are other very easy options that don't risk the wiring.
You can get a fused ciggy socket for a few quid that will bolt straight on the battery. |
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in ye olde times, when the world was young, a 3amp fuse would blow as it approached 6 amps. Or at least that was what I was taught in my City & Guilds... double the rating.
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Of course everything said is correct.
On the other hand, it's very unlikely that any wiring in that kind of automotive use would fry at 5A. 2mm*2 (28x0.3 stranded) is rated at 17A continuous, and IIRC down at 0,75mm*2 it is rated at 6A. and that's pretty lightweight stuff. The chances of a 5A fuse resulting in accessory circuit wiring overheating is slim, but it's your decision! If you can measure the conductor size you could put your own mind at rest.
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Fuses are good but don't always protect what you want as the 200 KiloWatt motor in work found out the other day when there was a loose crimp in the panel.
Linking out fuses is a bad move because it's reliant on the next protection device in circuit which normally is a bigger fuse so more current which will most of the time cause big damage. |
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Its the 'spike' of a motor that caused that to blow most likely, as someone said earlier, a slight delayed fuse probably wouldnt have blown as the current draw would rise initially then settle into its normal draw, which im guessing is below 3 amps unless put under increased load.
You wouldnt believe the differences in fuses, the variants are endless ![]() Last edited by Specialone; 01-04-11 at 07:23 PM. |
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