How do cars and vans differ on a V5? - SV650.org

08-10-11, 03:03 PM

Can you tell if a vehicle is a car or a van on the V5, I'm thinking about things like VW T4 caravelles, Mercedes V Class etc.

maviczap · 08-10-11, 05:54 PM

Yes, our works VW t4 is shown as a car on our V5, however be careful as one of my chaps was clocked speeding by a Scamera van because the Council classed it as a commercial van?

Once we'd sent them a copy of the V5 the ticket was withdrawn.

But I think it relates to either the number of seats in it or the number of windows it has or both. Our van has windows in the passenger compartment & has fixed seats so it can't carry any cargo

So its like this and is classed as a car on the V5

Not like this, which may be classed differently on the V5, which may apply to similar van construction

johnnyrod · 10-10-11, 10:32 AM

Dunno about the V5 but I thought in terms of speed limits, the DVLA called it a van when it wasn't built mostly like a car. e.g. Fiesta van, mostly car = car; VW Caddy, not really like a car = van so lower speed limits.

Mr Speirs · 10-10-11, 10:37 AM

I've been reading up about this Tim as I've been looking at VW T5's.
It seems a bit of a minefeild though
Not sure whether it applys to all makes but with the VW's if the no of seats is more than 3 then it is classed as a car. With VW's with they are a window van they will say 9 seats no matter how many seat there actually are. If it is a panel van then it will say 3.

I know for a fact that Caravelles are classed as cars.

10-10-11, 10:39 AM

There are different speed limits for cars and vans???

Mr Speirs · 10-10-11, 10:44 AM

Yeah. On single carriageways its 50mph On Dual Carriageways Max speed for a van is 60mph. Only if your Gross Vehicle Weight is over 2000kgs though.

10-10-11, 10:48 AM

phew think my vivaro is 1900 max, god knows what its weight it is with two bikes, tool box and genny in.

Mr Speirs · 10-10-11, 10:57 AM

I think you'll find Gross Vehicle Weight is the maximum allowable weight of the vehicle so laden weight not unladen weight. So you vivaro is anywhere from 2.7-2.9 GVW depending on engine (thanks google) meaning you are restricted to 50 on single and 60 on dual.

yorkie_chris · 10-10-11, 11:19 AM

Watching with interest. I thought it was same as car limits up until 3.5t

Mr Speirs · 10-10-11, 11:29 AM

No. It's same as car limits up until 2t fully laden.

That said any van with windows in the rear section from standard would be registered as a car. So if the Vivaro that belongs to hardhat harry has windows it would be same as car limits although essentially the same vehicle.

08-10-11, 03:03 PM	#1
Tim in Belgium Guest Posts: n/a	How do cars and vans differ on a V5? Can you tell if a vehicle is a car or a van on the V5, I'm thinking about things like VW T4 caravelles, Mercedes V Class etc.

08-10-11, 05:54 PM	#2
maviczap Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,097	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? Yes, our works VW t4 is shown as a car on our V5, however be careful as one of my chaps was clocked speeding by a Scamera van because the Council classed it as a commercial van? Once we'd sent them a copy of the V5 the ticket was withdrawn. But I think it relates to either the number of seats in it or the number of windows it has or both. Our van has windows in the passenger compartment & has fixed seats so it can't carry any cargo So its like this and is classed as a car on the V5 Not like this, which may be classed differently on the V5, which may apply to similar van construction __________________ We're riding out tonight to case the promised land Make everyday count RIP Reeder - Jolly Green Giant and comedy genius

10-10-11, 10:32 AM	#3
johnnyrod Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Doncaster, oop norf Posts: 2,128	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? Dunno about the V5 but I thought in terms of speed limits, the DVLA called it a van when it wasn't built mostly like a car. e.g. Fiesta van, mostly car = car; VW Caddy, not really like a car = van so lower speed limits.

10-10-11, 10:37 AM	#4
Mr Speirs Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northampton Posts: 2,218	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? I've been reading up about this Tim as I've been looking at VW T5's. It seems a bit of a minefeild though Not sure whether it applys to all makes but with the VW's if the no of seats is more than 3 then it is classed as a car. With VW's with they are a window van they will say 9 seats no matter how many seat there actually are. If it is a panel van then it will say 3. I know for a fact that Caravelles are classed as cars. __________________ Smokey Black Burnty 02 - Racetech Smoulderlators + .90kg BBQ Springs, zx10r shockingly toasted, Conti Road Attacks heat up very nicely, R&G Crash Bungs but what f**king use are they, No Colour Matched Hugger, Flame Extenda, Beowulf Titainium Oval Flame Thrower.

10-10-11, 10:39 AM	#5
hardhat_harry Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? There are different speed limits for cars and vans???

10-10-11, 10:44 AM	#6
Mr Speirs Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northampton Posts: 2,218	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? Yeah. On single carriageways its 50mph On Dual Carriageways Max speed for a van is 60mph. Only if your Gross Vehicle Weight is over 2000kgs though. __________________ Smokey Black Burnty 02 - Racetech Smoulderlators + .90kg BBQ Springs, zx10r shockingly toasted, Conti Road Attacks heat up very nicely, R&G Crash Bungs but what f**king use are they, No Colour Matched Hugger, Flame Extenda, Beowulf Titainium Oval Flame Thrower.

10-10-11, 10:48 AM	#7
hardhat_harry Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? phew think my vivaro is 1900 max, god knows what its weight it is with two bikes, tool box and genny in.

10-10-11, 10:57 AM	#8
Mr Speirs Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northampton Posts: 2,218	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? I think you'll find Gross Vehicle Weight is the maximum allowable weight of the vehicle so laden weight not unladen weight. So you vivaro is anywhere from 2.7-2.9 GVW depending on engine (thanks google) meaning you are restricted to 50 on single and 60 on dual. __________________ Smokey Black Burnty 02 - Racetech Smoulderlators + .90kg BBQ Springs, zx10r shockingly toasted, Conti Road Attacks heat up very nicely, R&G Crash Bungs but what f**king use are they, No Colour Matched Hugger, Flame Extenda, Beowulf Titainium Oval Flame Thrower.

10-10-11, 11:19 AM	#9
yorkie_chris Noisy Git Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax/Leeds Posts: 26,645	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? Watching with interest. I thought it was same as car limits up until 3.5t __________________ Currently Ex Biker Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat

10-10-11, 11:29 AM	#10
Mr Speirs Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northampton Posts: 2,218	Re: How do cars and vans differ on a V5? No. It's same as car limits up until 2t fully laden. That said any van with windows in the rear section from standard would be registered as a car. So if the Vivaro that belongs to hardhat harry has windows it would be same as car limits although essentially the same vehicle. __________________ Smokey Black Burnty 02 - Racetech Smoulderlators + .90kg BBQ Springs, zx10r shockingly toasted, Conti Road Attacks heat up very nicely, R&G Crash Bungs but what f**king use are they, No Colour Matched Hugger, Flame Extenda, Beowulf Titainium Oval Flame Thrower.

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