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Old 23-02-13, 12:02 AM   #1
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What's peoples opinion on patten parts? I had to have a new regulator so I opted for a patten part as it was a lot cheaper. Few weeks later it over charged and burnt out my battery, so under warrenty I got another one sent out, couple off weeks later same problem. So now I'm getting a genuine suzuki one fitted.
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Old 23-02-13, 08:22 AM   #2
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And there is the lesson. Buy cheap, buy twice.
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Old 23-02-13, 08:23 AM   #3
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stick with original fitment,you can some times pick up same make online without the suzuki markup,dont be tempted to fit a honda reg/rec as they are no better then the suzuki item,and if i was to replace the battery i would go for the motobatt option,as it will take more abuse then most others and will even survive being overcharged
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Old 23-02-13, 08:25 AM   #4
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And there is the lesson. Buy cheap, buy twice.
as my farther inlaw once said"if you pay peanuts,you get monkeys"
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Old 23-02-13, 10:37 AM   #5
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Lernt the hard way lol, I'm getting an proper suzuki one now, and I've got a varta battery now as I heard they was good.
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Old 23-02-13, 11:08 AM   #6
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stick with original fitment,you can some times pick up same make online without the suzuki markup,dont be tempted to fit a honda reg/rec as they are no better then the suzuki item,and if i was to replace the battery i would go for the motobatt option,as it will take more abuse then most others and will even survive being overcharged
Not entirely correct depending which reg rec you go for. If you go for a MOSFET reg then they are a considerably better technology all round.

They're not all from hondas, and not all honda regs are MOSFET either.

The difference is easily demonstrated when you'll get burnt touching a shunt regulator but the MOSFET ones run barely warm and watching a voltmeter are a hell of a lot more stable.
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Old 23-02-13, 12:19 PM   #7
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Not entirely correct depending which reg rec you go for. If you go for a MOSFET reg then they are a considerably better technology all round.

They're not all from hondas, and not all honda regs are MOSFET either.

The difference is easily demonstrated when you'll get burnt touching a shunt regulator but the MOSFET ones run barely warm and watching a voltmeter are a hell of a lot more stable.
you may well be correct,but ive never heard of a regulator rectifer that is for a honda with a genertator(on the end of the crank,as opposed to a alternator like that found on a car or suzuki bandits etc)that doesn't get hot and give up every now and then,(normally every 20 to 30k on my vfr
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I know the difference between the various types of charging circuit.
There is another difference that honda tend to use a different wind of alternator to suzuki which does tend to run the reg recs a little hotter, so even to fit the shunt style unit from a honda may be less stressed when fitted to an SV... either way they are at least an equivalent.

Some of the newer kawas also use the decent reg recs.

Try find a decent reg rec next time you burn one out and I bet it will last considerably longer.
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I know the difference between the various types of charging circuit.
There is another difference that honda tend to use a different wind of alternator to suzuki which does tend to run the reg recs a little hotter, so even to fit the shunt style unit from a honda may be less stressed when fitted to an SV... either way they are at least an equivalent.

Some of the newer kawas also use the decent reg recs.

Try find a decent reg rec next time you burn one out and I bet it will last considerably longer.
the vfr runs a Shindengen SH689DA,which came from dave silver,to the best of my knowledge its had the original one replaced with a second hand one and then the DS one
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The SH at the start means shunt, the ones with the digital parts start with FH... like the FH010s on some ZX10/ZZR14... or FH012 like on late yammie R1 some snowmobiles and stuff.

For the sake of a good bit of googling and maybe some mild rewiring you can find much better parts for sometimes a lot cheaper than OEM stock.
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