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Old 17-03-12, 06:30 PM   #1
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Default Tool for fitting chain + brake pad question

I'm combining two threads together because there's no point making two seperate ones. I bought a chain and sprocket set but it didn't come with a tool to connect the two chain ends together. Would something like this work? They seem kind of expensive for a tool that would only be used every few years, so would I be able to borrow one from a mate?

Also, I'm after some of these that have come off my brake pads. As you can see mine are pretty rusty. I probably need some new ones, but I have no idea what they are called. The best I could come up with were "brake spacers" but Google didn't come up with anything. Could anyone enlighten me?

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Old 17-03-12, 07:05 PM   #2
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Default Re: Tool for fitting chain + brake pad question

Which sort of link has the new chain got? See here: Clickety click.
The tool you have linked to is for the second type I mention in that post, suitable only for pins with recessed ends. If your mate has one he may let you borrow it, but if he knows how to use it - get him to. It can make a bad job if you don't know how.

Brake parts?: Click me, parts 16, 17 and 18. They rarely require replacement - just clean them.
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Old 18-03-12, 04:47 AM   #3
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Which sort of link has the new chain got? See here: Clickety click.
The tool you have linked to is for the second type I mention in that post, suitable only for pins with recessed ends. If your mate has one he may let you borrow it, but if he knows how to use it - get him to. It can make a bad job if you don't know how.

Brake parts?: Click me, parts 16, 17 and 18. They rarely require replacement - just clean them.
Thanks for the reply. This is the chain I bought, idk whether you can tell from that what type of chain it is.
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Old 18-03-12, 09:00 AM   #4
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Default Re: Tool for fitting chain + brake pad question

Typically chains such as the one you've bought have recessed pins, but not all, so:

Open the little bag with the split link in it, there's some weeny rubber rings, (at least four), and two pieces of chain, one piece is a chain side plate on its own, one piece is a side plate with two pins rivetted to it, do the ends of the pins have a recess in them, such that the last few mm is a hollow tube? If yes, then the tool you have linked to is suitable to join it. If no, and the pins have plain square ends, then that tool will not rivet the link you have.
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Old 18-03-12, 10:06 AM   #5
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Default Re: Tool for fitting chain + brake pad question

Riveting the chain is easy enough assuming you have the right tool.

I would advise the purchase of an angle grinder (assuming you do not already own one) 4.5" is more than adequate (get a metal grinding disc) to take off the rivet heads in order to punch out the old rivet.

I am not going to say my way of working is correct but to me logical.

First remove the front sprocket cover and the 2 bolts securing clutch release support (that restricts access to removing the sprocket, it is possible without removing it but why make life difficult), knock back the tab washer.

Place a piece of wood, metal bar etc protecting the swinging arm with old rag or similar. (I have a piece of 1" diameter bar with sponge taped round each end) though the rear wheel and trap it against the swing arm to lock the wheel.

With large breaker bar and socket then release the front sprocket nut sufficient to be able to subsequently remove it once you have broken the chain.

Now grind off the rivet heads. A piece of plywood behind helps to protect the swing arm if you think you are likely to slip. And punch out the rivets, remove chain.

Remove front sprocket nut/tab washer/sprocket. Clean old lube residue out with paraffin. Put a tray/reg underneath to catch nasty crud.

Stick your leg against back tyre/apply brake or lock the rear wheel using bar from above and slacken the rear sprocket nuts. Remove rear wheel in accordance with the manual, pull out cush drive, and use opportunity to clean rear wheel properly. Inspect drive rubbers for wear.

Remove sprocket nuts, clean drive. Replace sprocket. (numbers on outside) hand tighten nuts. Refit cush drive, refit wheel.

Wind back chain adjustment.

Fit front sprocket, tab washer, nut.

Fit new chain, insert soft link by putting a ring on each rivet, insert through chain second ring, side plate. I use the tool to push the side plate against the rings but not that tight as to make it any stiffer than any other link. Rivet in accordance with them manual. checking you are not over tightening the link compared to others. by make sure the head is deformed sufficient to retain the side plate.

Reinsert locking bar and torque up the front /rear sprocket nuts.

knock back tab washer to secure front sprocket nut.
Align rear wheel and adjust chain tension.

Torque up rear wheel. check tension.

refit clutch release support, front sprocket cover

Apply new lube to fling onto recently cleaned rear wheel.

Ride with pride.

check for initial stretch and adjust if necessary.

Work out from above. Do you need to buy extra tooling?

angle grinder,
breaker bar
torque wrench
sockets
paddock stand.
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Old 19-03-12, 02:00 PM   #6
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Typically chains such as the one you've bought have recessed pins, but not all, so:

Open the little bag with the split link in it, there's some weeny rubber rings, (at least four), and two pieces of chain, one piece is a chain side plate on its own, one piece is a side plate with two pins rivetted to it, do the ends of the pins have a recess in them, such that the last few mm is a hollow tube? If yes, then the tool you have linked to is suitable to join it. If no, and the pins have plain square ends, then that tool will not rivet the link you have.
Thanks, what you wrote is exactly what I have. I'll ask a few mates if I can borrow one if they have one, if not I'll buy the one from Ebay. Thanks again.

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Seems kinda complicated lol, so far I've already replaced both sprockets and cut the chain off using an angle grinder, it's all ready for the new chain to be fitted now. I'll definitely refer to your post when sorting it out this week. Thanks!
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