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Old 04-07-12, 07:58 PM   #1
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Lost - About 6 billion euros (and counting)

Found - The Higgs Boson Particle.

So I ask you org, was it worth it?
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Old 04-07-12, 08:02 PM   #2
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listening to the radio today and they were listing the things that had come about due to the experiments.
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Old 04-07-12, 08:06 PM   #3
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Definitely worth it.

I've had much entertainment today listening to radio DJs attempt to explain what it is, mostly they've failed miserably.
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Old 04-07-12, 08:11 PM   #4
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When Faraday was explaining some newfangled thing called electricity to Gladstone he was asked if it was of any use. His reply was, apparently, "No idea but one day, sir, you may tax it."

Worth every penny. We've just no idea how at the moment.
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Old 04-07-12, 08:12 PM   #5
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I'm not sure they'll tax mass.

Might be unpopular with fatties.
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Old 04-07-12, 08:13 PM   #6
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wh...B_was_born.jpg
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Old 04-07-12, 08:14 PM   #7
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Here are some LHC facts for you...

1. Why is it called the Large Hadron Collider? The first one is easy:*Large*because it is really big. The LHC is a large circular tunnel with a circumference of 27 kilometers (17 miles), buried in the ground under an average of 100 m (328 ft) of dirt and rock. In particle physics,*hadron*is a family of subatomic particles made of quarks and held together by the strong force*. Examples of hadrons are protons and neutrons. As you can guess from the name, the LHC uses mostly protons (with some ions) for its experiments. Lastly,*collider*because the LHC accelerates protons into two beams travelling in opposite directions and then collides them to see what particles come out. *There are four fundamental interactions: the strong force, the weak force, the electromagnetic force and gravity. Despite initial observations of the elusive metachlorian by Jinn, QG, et al (1999)*Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace,*the existence of "The*Force" remains a controversial hypothesis unaccepted by most modern scientists.

2. Why is it underground? Well, that's because finding 27 kilometers worth of real estate above ground is really, really expensive. Actually, the LHC uses a tunnel originally dug for a previous collider (the LEP or the Large Electron Positron collider), which was decomissioned in 2000. All that dirt and rock also provide great shielding to reduce the amount of natural radiation that reaches the LHC's detectors.

3. Why is the LHC like a Werewolf? Both are affected by the Moon! Like tides in the ocean, the ground is also subject to lunar attraction. When the Moon is full, the Earth's crust actually rises about 25 cm (9.8 in). This movement causes the circumference of the LHC to vary by (a whopping) 1 mm (out of 27 km, a factor of 0.000004%) ) but that's enough so that physicists need to take it into account. (Source:*CERN FAQ: LHC, the Guide *[PDF])

4. Why is the LHC like a Refrigerator? The Large Hadron Collider is not only a cool particle physics gizmo, it's also a very, very cold one. Indeed, it is the largest cryogenic system in the world and is one of the coldest places on Earth. To keep them at superconducting temperature, scientists have to cool the LHC's magnets down to 1.9 K (-271.3°C), which is lower than the temperature of outer space (-270.5°C). First, the magnets are cooled to -193.2°C using 10,000 tons of liquid nitrogen. Then 90 tons of liquid helium is used to lower the temperature down to -271.3°C. The whole cooling process takes a few weeks.

5. Who the heck is CERN anyway? In 1952, eleven European countries came together to form the European*Council*for Nuclear Research (Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire*in French, which gave it the acronym CERN). Two years later in 1954 it was renamed the European*Organization*for Nuclear Research, which would've given it the French name of*Organisation Européenne pour la Recherche Nucléaire*or the acronym OERN). Nobody liked "OERN", so the acronym CERN stuck. If CERN sounds familiar to you even before this whole LHC business got started, that's because the World Wide Web was started by CERN employees Sir Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailliau (See:*10 Things You Should Know About the Internet )

6. How much does it cost, and who's paying for it? The Large Hadron Collider is nearly 30 years in the making - and costs the member countries of CERN and other participating countries an estimated €4.6 billion (about US$ 6.4 billion). Like those late night infomercials, however, we can say "but that's not all!" Extra things like detectors, computing capacity, and extra warranty (just kidding!) cost an extra €1.43 billion. The United Kingdom, for example, contributes £34 million per year, less than the cost of a pint of beer per adult in the country per year (Source ). The United States contributed approximately $531 million to the development and construction of components for the LHC (with the US Department of Energy shelling out $450 million and the National Science Foundation kicking in the remaining $81 million).

7. How much electricity is used to run the LHC? It takes 120 MW to run the LCH - approximately the power consumption of all the Canton State of Geneva. Need a better comparison? 120 megawatt is equivalent to the energy used by 1,2 million 100 watt incadescent light bulb or 120,000 average California home. It's estimated that the yearly energy cost of running the LHC is €19 million.

8. How much data is expected from the LHC? The LHC experiments represents about 150 million sensors delivering data 40 million times a second. The data flow is about 700 MB/s, or about 15,000,000 GB (15 petabyte) per year. If you put all that in CDs, it'll stack 20 km tall each year! Perhaps it's better to put them in DVDs. That'll just be 100,000 DVDs every year ... To prepare for the deluge of data, CERN built the Worldwide LHC Computing Grid - sort of a super-fast, private Internet connecting some 80,000 computers to analyze the data (Source ).

9. Okay, will the LHC spawn a black hole that'll eat my planet? Every time physicists come up with particle accelerators, party poopers come up with doomsday scenarios on how they will destroy Earth: black holes, killer strangelets, magnetic monopoles, and vacuum bubbles. Let's talk about them one by one: Micro black hole:*Basically it's a region in space where gravity is so powerful that nothing, not even light, can escape. Planet-eating black holes are created when massive stars collapse on itself (and by massive, we mean massive - even our Sun isn't big enough to create a black hole if it collapsed. You'd need 10 times the mass of the Sun.) There is a remote possibility that micro black holes can be created in the collisions at the LHC. These black holes are small: about 10-35*m across (the so-called Planck Length) and puny in mass (less than a speck of dust). These black holes would evaporate in 10-42*seconds in a blast of Hawking radiation. Even black holes with the mass of Mt. Everest would have a radius of about 10-15*m across. It would have trouble "eating" a proton, much less the entire planet. (Source: Pickover, C. (1997)*Black Holes: A Traveler's Guide) Strangelets:*These are strange matters that, like the Ice-nine in Vonnegut's novel*Cat's Cradle, would turn all matters it touched into strange matters and eventually all of the planet will be transmuted into strangelets.* The problem with strangelet doomsday scenario, besides being very bizarre, is that no one has ever seen a strangelet. It remains a hypothetical particle. Previous particle accelerators that operated at lower energy than the LHC were actually better candidates to producing strangelets, and so far, we're still here. Magnetic monopoles:*These are hypothetical particles with a single magnetic charge (hence the name) - either a north pole or a south pole, but not both. Magnetic monopoles "eat proton." Actually, physicists have been looking for magnetic monopoles for a long time - and so far they've never found it. By calculations, magnetic monopoles are actually too heavy to be produced at the LHC. Vacuum bubble:*It is actually a very interesting idea in quantum field theory. It states that life, the universe and everything aren't the most stable configuration possible. Perturbations caused by the LHC could tip it into the more stable state (called the vacuum bubble) and all of us "pop" out of existence. In all of these cases - if micro black hole, strangelets, magnetic monopoles, and vacuum bubbles were a problem to begin with, they would've been created by cosmic rays already. The continued existence of Earth and the rest of the universe tend to discount the validity of these doomsday scenarios.
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Old 04-07-12, 08:16 PM   #8
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Did greece pay for this by any chance?
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Old 04-07-12, 08:25 PM   #9
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God damn, I knew I dropped it somewhere, how it got there I'll never know, have never been to Switzerland!!
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Old 04-07-12, 08:29 PM   #10
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better than giving it PIIGS ..money well spent At least the LHC isnt gonna go on strike and riot because its feeling a bit poor
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