ACTA : Internet Censorship Revisited

Hi everyone
I've already started a thread on this a couple of days ago, but feel that maybe it was too long winded (you can find it here: http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=2654915) and maybe that's why people didn't respond to it...

So this time I'll be more concise: YOU NEED TO READ ABOUT IT!!!

Here's a short list of links:

If You Thought SOPA Was Bad, Just Wait Until You Meet ACTA
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...you-meet-acta/

ACTA vs. SOPA: Five Reasons ACTA is Scarier Threat to Internet Freedom
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2869...edom.htm?cid=2

What's Wrong With ACTA
http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number1...rong-with-ACTA

The secret treaty: Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) and Its Impact on Access to Medicines
http://www.msfaccess.org/content/sec...cess-medicines

[yorkie_chris]

I'm in agreement and have had a whinge to my MEPs about it, for all the good it is likely to do...

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I'm in agreement and have had a whinge to my MEPs about it, for all the good it is likely to do...

If only everyone did that, the politicians would see that this is a very sensitive matter and would pay attention to our worries.

[arc123]

This will happen in some form or another.

Pretty sure "Internet2" will be a tightly controlled subscription service at some point.

This will only control port80 HTTP surface web though - deepweb via TOR etc will still be freely accessable in my opinion.

As long as it doesn't happen large scale, it doesn't happen at all. Most restrictive measures can be circumvented. It's when they'll have the ability to shut down sites without a fight that the battle will be lost.

Until then, we can communicate and organize in order to resist censorship.

As a plus, they have a limited window. If they don't manage to censor the internet soon, the business models they use will be completely obsolete with the advent of cloud computing and THEY will be forced to adapt then. Essentially, only the ones that keep an open mind will manage to survive

[Bibio]

there is only one way to stop acts like this going threw. but it will never ever happen as it will take every single person with an internet account to make it happen. what we all need to do is threaten to cancel our subscriptions and not use the internet. the internet is a multi billion £ economy and hitting them where it hurts is the only answer.

complete global blackout of all telecommunications even for an hour would case enough damage for them to think twice about who they are trying to bully.

side note.. who owns the internet? no one does so how can they pass laws on something that no one owns.

Originally Posted by Bibio

there is only one way to stop acts like this going threw. but it will never ever happen as it will take every single person with an internet account to make it happen. what we all need to do is threaten to cancel our subscriptions and not use the internet. the internet is a multi billion £ economy and hitting them where it hurts is the only answer.

complete global blackout of all telecommunications even for an hour would case enough damage for them to think twice about who they are trying to bully.

You could go at the other end of the scale : Total communications explosion to shut down the servers of the would-be-censors (DDOS attack)... I guess some Anonymous guys would know better than me though

Im too bone idle to read though pages and pages of propaganda, can someone who understands them for what they are bullet point the proposed legislation for me?

I've had 2 weeks of it from a bloke at work,
Co-Worker (CO): oh its terrible its the end of free speach and the internet as a whole
Me (Me): What do you mean... no more porn?
CO: No more porn, no more football results, no more you tube
Me: why what are they doing?
CO: shutting it all down!!!
ME: WTF, dont talk rubbish - what are they actually proposing
CO: Well I dont know the details but they're shutting it all down!!!
ME: #FACEPALM!

So far all I see is a lot of comotion but no one able to point the way to the fire.

[arc123]

complete global blackout of all telecommunications even for an hour would case enough damage for them to think twice about who they are trying to bully.

You do realise that most people will happily sleep through such legislation being passed and not give a monkeys? Cyber-attacks (which will be classified as terrorism) and internet security breaches will heavily feature in the news over the next couple of years. The general population will welcome better security.

side note.. who owns the internet? no one does so how can they pass laws on something that no one owns.

Well, 'they' don't own our country. 'They' don't own us - yet we allow them to pass laws on us. But as long as we have a 5 yearly sham where 2 'competing' parties argue about the tax on cigarettes, thats alright because we live in a democracy.

Legislation for internet censorship / copyright protection etc will be passed, sooner rather than later.

Are you still going on about this?

Many large ISPs have been intercepting your traffic for years by doing transparent caching/proxying of your connections. If you think they don't already look at the data and use it to their advantage, you are wrong.

Sure, it's not great having this mandated, but at the moment anyone in the transit-path between you and your destination on the internet can log and modify any webpage they see fit, other than https sites.

Recent breaches at various certificate authorities, means that it's entirely possible that some SSL sites can (and have) been compromised by MITM attacks too. Sure the breaches at the CAs were supposedly carried out by various countries.

Anyone with enough money could probably bribe themselves a cert for any site, then it's just a case of finding the targets and intercepting/re-writing the traffic. It's a lot of effot and ballache to do, but it's entirely possible. In fact if many companies routinely do it a different way to view what their employees are doing on the internet, even on SSL sites.

Now, accept the Internet is insecure and it's easy for your ISP to track you and go and have some toast.