Org police - worth pursuing a minor claim?

[Dave20046]

Found myself making friends at the weekend, and wouldn't mind pressing charges for GBH with intent (that's what a copper suggested it was, I thought grievous meant I had to be seriously injured but hey ho they definitely intended to harm/kill me) on a group of 8 of the finest citizens to 'graduate' an SIA course.
Luckily I avoided the privacy they wanted and have some street CCTV and several witnesses. But it's 3 vs. 8 + ropey CCTV, there was no physical confrontation from my side of things but when I thought the matter was done, I did foolishly offer a rather brief but damning life analysis (looks like it was accurate!) and a cheery wave which will be on camera. Round 2 then ensued, which involved a further 7 friendly meatheads, but no vehicles this time thankfully.

I just know the police are going to say "well the 8 people say xxxxx... and you say xxxxxxx so let's just forget about the whole thing" *

I admittedly don't want any charges bringing against me (but at the same time I'm thinking if the above scenario happens it's almost an admission that they don't have proof of my alleged 'offences' or think they couldn't possibly be brought) I also accept I'm a tool, however the attack was somewhat nasty and on principle don't really want these people to continue like this** and seriously hurt someone.


*Not a snipe at the police in anyway, the two that appeared (and fast) were pretty good and the 999 operator instructed a witness pretty effectively which helped to disperse the less determined ones.
**but accept there's a good chance they'll just be replaced with as bad/worse


Wouldn't mind a bit of advice to arm myself with, particularly from the police who I can only imagine see this several times a day week in week out.

What exact injuries do you have? Common assault/ABH/GBH the category of offence is defined by the injuries you have.

[Dave20046]

Nothing visible, all punches were to the throat and kidneys. Muscle strain to by neck from attempted snappage and a spine that's been stamped on.
Over all just a bit stiff (oi oi!)

Witnesses to me being thrown in front of a car and the quote "i'm going to snap your ****ing neck" repeated, I'd view it as good attempt and it was planned, it was a fair bit away from the premises these chaps were employed to secure.

All considering a part of me wouldn't pursue on the basis I'm going to be fine and my life clearly isn't as miserable as theirs- I don't fancy wasting the police's time. Just the thought of it happening to someone else that's a concern, so would like to see a mark against their names. The purpose of the thread is so I can give an informed answer if I'm given the (one) chance to call it quits or pursue.

[Fallout]

If you want an answer from a forum bobby, it might help if you actually explained what happened. I read your post twice and it doesn't really describe the event in a form that conveys anything useful, except for the fact you're miffed. How did it start, what happened, who hit who first, who said what, what injuries etc? Step by step, otherwise how can anyone guess at who's to blame and how the cops would view it?

[Dave20046]

I'm not miffed in the slightest, sorry you read that into it.

I was assaulted by a bouncer outside of a club, went to a colleague to complain and ask the attackers name & badge number (if relevant with SIA) and was thrown into the path of a car. This would be the point of my stupidity, where I gave a verbal rundown of my opinions of the bouncer in a smartass way and walked away accepting that was all that could be done in the way of justice.

5 minutes later I was jumped by him and 7 friends.

I don't see the need for too much more detail or a word for word account as I'm pretty sure any copper that sees this sort of a scenario will just tell me 'you can't win', I want to know if I'm wrong on that assumption. If that's incorrect then fair enough.


I accept I should have known better, and should have pieced together the fact that there'd been a boxing match on, these guys were pumped and it was nearing the end of their shift. Should never have bitten and should have just taken the slap and walked off and complained retrospectively. I'm not really after a slating on the forum if it can be avoided!

[DJ123]

It would be on the premises CCTV i would imagine, majority of them cover the front door area. Plus they would know what security team was on, i would ask for the SIA number and make a formal complaint/charges to the Police-having violence on record can lead to said bouncer losing his SIA license (there are terms and conditions of having/keeping an SIA license)

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by daddyjob

It would be on the premises CCTV i would imagine, majority of them cover the front door area. Plus they would know what security team was on, i would ask for the SIA number and make a formal complaint/charges to the Police-having violence on record can lead to said bouncer losing his SIA license (there are terms and conditions of having/keeping an SIA license)

I don't hold out hope for the premises surveillance, but there was public CCTV, am I entitled to request it before further committing to a decision?

(and request the premises surveillance if available via the police)

The 7 others were all SIA bouncers from the same venue, the police that attended said they have no business following people outside the venue attacking them and disappearing as the police turn up, I was actually surprised they went this far too hence why I'm thinking they could do with their thoughts on acceptable response to idiots realigning.

[DJ123]

I believe that you have to register the offence with the Police first, then you can tell them about the public CCTV, and also of premises CCTV. I would do it sharpish as i imagine they don't keep CCTV footage for a long time.

[maviczap]

Can you get some cash from the criminal injuries compensation scheme

One of my colleagues was assaulted, had a tooth knocked out by some random guy who took a dislike to him in the street. Never caught the offender, but he got some money I think

http://www.justice.gov.uk/victims-and-witnesses/cica

Cnuts, glad you're ok buddy

In fairness door staff have calmed down a lot these days but it used to be a regular occurrence in the 80's and early 90's before it was clamped down on.

Making a complaint is the right thing to do IMO, they have to have licenses now I believe which involves police checks, hopefully it might cause them some hassle.

Either complain or get a shotgun license

*this actually happened to a lad I used to work with, he worked doors on the weekend and after refusing entry to some pikey looking lads then they came back later and blasted the door which he was behind, he was peppered with shot in his neck and back.