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Old 10-09-12, 07:51 PM   #1
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Hey guys

Does anyone have any experience with PCIII's and the likes?

I've bought one second hand but it doesn't come with an O2 sensor/eliminator.
Do i need to buy the sensor/eliminator in order to get the PCIII working

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Old 10-09-12, 11:11 PM   #2
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Mine does not have O2 whatcha call it, just straight in to the ecu loom and bobs your uncle. Mine on a gixer 600 k3. But I would ask this kind of question on a gixer forum
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Old 11-09-12, 09:34 AM   #3
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Ideally yes to enable it to be mapped properly. Ring Dynojet UK they will sell you one. You will need the code on the sticker off the back of the PC3 to order the O2 eliminator. They wont sell you one if the PC3 is a US imported one.
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Old 12-09-12, 07:12 AM   #4
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Default Re: Power Commander III question

Just had a quote from YPE Power in Bonnyrigg to get the bike Dyno'd and a custom map put on my PCIII. At £180 it seems a bit excessive to me. That's nearly the price of a new PCIII.

I have no experience with Dyno testing etc. Is this a fair price or should I look elsewhere?

http://www.ype-power.co.uk/
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Old 12-09-12, 08:08 AM   #5
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Just had a quote from YPE Power in Bonnyrigg to get the bike Dyno'd and a custom map put on my PCIII. At £180 it seems a bit excessive to me. That's nearly the price of a new PCIII.

I have no experience with Dyno testing etc. Is this a fair price or should I look elsewhere?

http://www.ype-power.co.uk/
Yes and YPE I understand are very good at what they do. A new PC3 is more like £300, not £180 and id expect any dyno place doing the map properly will take around 3 hours in total to do it.

Its skilled work using expensive machinery. The investment alot of places like YPE make in staff and the dyno has to be paid for in some way or another. Learning to map properly takes alot of skill and experience.

Anywhere who says they can map a bike properly in an hour and charge about £60 are either not doing it properly, are just downloading a previously written map off another bike or are seriously selling themselves short.

Prices will vary slightly but in general most good tuners that I know of from the racing side will charge around that figure give or take ten/twenty quid.
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Old 12-09-12, 08:22 AM   #6
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That's great thanks,

As i said I have no experience with Dyno time and whats involved. £180 sounds a fair price after your breakdown above. I will give them a call and get it booked in.

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No worries.
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so let me get this right.. you think the 1000 is not fast enough that you have to put a PCIII on and get it mapped to go faster?
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Yes and YPE I understand are very good at what they do. A new PC3 is more like £300, not £180 and id expect any dyno place doing the map properly will take around 3 hours in total to do it.

Its skilled work using expensive machinery. The investment alot of places like YPE make in staff and the dyno has to be paid for in some way or another. Learning to map properly takes alot of skill and experience.

Anywhere who says they can map a bike properly in an hour and charge about £60 are either not doing it properly, are just downloading a previously written map off another bike or are seriously selling themselves short.

Prices will vary slightly but in general most good tuners that I know of from the racing side will charge around that figure give or take ten/twenty quid.
A good dyno operator should also take the bike for a test run and check things like throttle response and engine braking, which can't be checked on the dyno, and make adjustments post test run if required.
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Old 12-09-12, 08:54 AM   #10
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so let me get this right.. you think the 1000 is not fast enough that you have to put a PCIII on and get it mapped to go faster?
Not to go faster Lance, just wanna sort out the fuelling. I will never be as fast as the bike

I bought a Decat pipe which i've fitted and i've also disabled the EXCV. The bike is now running a little rich and popping quite a bit. Its idle hunting quite badly too.

I am hoping a proper PCIII map will sort out the fuelling and give the bike a nice power curve.
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