Track days and tyre warm up

[Fallout]

Going to be venturing into my first track day soon. Just need to pull my finger out of my bum pipe.

I have some Metzler Racetec part worn tyres which will just be used for the track. I don't particularly want to faff about with tyre warmers (or want the expense) and I'm more than happy to just head out and learn how the tyres behave and warm up on the track. In fact, this is what I will be doing.

Still, I though it'd be interesting to get an idea from people in the know as to how they'll perform, and an idea of how quickly they'd warm up, and at what point you'd guess they'd be ready to take some beans and proper lean. I know it's all just guess work and speculation, but really I have ZERO knowledge on how long they'll take to get temp into them. All I know is they'll take longer than a road specific compound.

[johnnyrod]

If they're treaded I'd be surprised if they take longer to warm up than road tyres, that's more of a slick problem. Usually a couple of laps is good, for me my brain is also warming up, plus if it's your first time on track you'll be easing into it as well.

[NTECUK]

its a road legal track day tyrer . so same as road trip .
if your in novice no one can use warmers so you be in the same boat as every one elses .

Depends largely on the length of the track, the weather on the day and how smooth you are on the throttle. 2 laps is a good rule of thumb though. I think they'll warm up quicker than road tyres if anything.

(What d'ya mean NTECUK? Novices can use warmers)

[jambo]

TIB: I've been on a couple of track days where warmers are only allowed in the top couple of groups to try and encourage people taking it seriously to select a different group to people doing their first day. I don't think it was enforced particularly, just to help people select the group appropriate to them.

Fallout: Unless you're going to get some proper lean on into the first corner you'll probably find for the first part of the day you take longer to warm up mentally than the tyres take to get sticky. By the afternoon just be a bit respectful for 2-3 laps depending on the circuit and build pace. It's not bad advice anyway really

Jambo

[NTECUK]

All the msv ones don't allow novice group to use warmers.
Just be sensible .on a hot day like today your only need a dozen corners .
Will a low start pressure they move and soon get up to pressure..
my super corsa goes from 32 to 36 (tpms ) in less than a mile down the back roads.

re: Novices excluded from using tyre warmers. Fair play, never seen that rule in force myself but I can see the sense in the rule. I expect Warmers can lead to a false sense of security.

[NTECUK]

There also the red mist .
you see someone disappearing off in the distance . you appt to go "well if he can do that on his SV .So can I on my R6 ....
then the front end tucks .......

[Fallout]

Interesting points. Yes, as a novice there will be a lot to learn, so I imagine they'll be warm long before my brain is, especially since I'll likely be trailering/vanning the bike to the track, so I won't have ridden much in the morning. I tend to take a good 10 minutes in the morning before I learn it over a lot around a corner.

So are most tracks surfaced with a more grippy asphalt? I've heard this before that everything feels more grippy on the track straight away anyway.

[NTECUK]

Imagine the smothest road you ride on ,only smother.
No one on your side of the road on that tight lefthander.
No side roads.
No hedges etc blocking your view .
Enjoy