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Old 01-08-13, 07:54 AM   #1
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Hi Guys

Ive just ridden into work, my bike started fine this morning i stopped at work, returned to my bike about 5 minutes later had power on the dash and it tried to start but failed. ive been using it everyday for the last 10 days with no issue

Now i have no dash lights or power at all, its totally dead?

Any ideas

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Old 01-08-13, 08:06 AM   #2
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Default Re: Just ridden to work and my bike wont restart!! help

checked the fuses?
main one on the relay?
all three of the cutouts (clutch/kill & sidestand) ?

those are the normal causes of complete power loss.
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Old 01-08-13, 10:12 AM   #3
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Default Re: Just ridden to work and my bike wont restart!! help

Ive got my lunch hour to hopefully find its only a fuse!! just went back to it now its cool and its still totally dead!
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Old 01-08-13, 10:56 AM   #4
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Default Re: Just ridden to work and my bike wont restart!! help

"Totally dead"

I'll be assuming that no lights, no LEDs, not a flicker of a sign of life, as if you'd not put the key in at all.

First check the battery connections are tight, and ideally remove the battery and charge it. Check the connections to the main relay on the right (follow the +ve from the battery) are tight and that this main fuse is OK (there's a spare in there on the other side) as well as that the 4 pin plug into the top is connected cleanly, sometimes the connections here get damaged. Check the main earth connection from the battery to the back of the engine.

Failing that I'd lift the tank and check the connector from the ignition barrel back into the main loom. Sometimes it gets corroded and shorts out, causing the main live not to work.

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Old 01-08-13, 12:23 PM   #5
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"Totally dead"

I'll be assuming that no lights, no LEDs, not a flicker of a sign of life, as if you'd not put the key in at all.

First check the battery connections are tight, and ideally remove the battery and charge it. Check the connections to the main relay on the right (follow the +ve from the battery) are tight and that this main fuse is OK (there's a spare in there on the other side) as well as that the 4 pin plug into the top is connected cleanly, sometimes the connections here get damaged. Check the main earth connection from the battery to the back of the engine.

Failing that I'd lift the tank and check the connector from the ignition barrel back into the main loom. Sometimes it gets corroded and shorts out, causing the main live not to work.

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Yes totally dead! i have check everything above apart from the connection under the tank, it has power going to the ignition but none coming back from it? i checked this at the wiring not the plug tho?
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Yes totally dead! i have check everything above apart from the connection under the tank, it has power going to the ignition but none coming back from it? i checked this at the wiring not the plug tho?
How do you know it has power going to the ignition, what have you tested? What did you find? We're not there, and the more specific you are the less chance we'll guess wrong

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Old 01-08-13, 01:20 PM   #7
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Default Re: Just ridden to work and my bike wont restart!! help

Surely it would be easy enough lift the tank and look at the green connector? If wires or the housing is charred then there's your answer, it's blown. If not check the connections anyway.
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How do you know it has power going to the ignition, what have you tested? What did you find? We're not there, and the more specific you are the less chance we'll guess wrong

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I borrowed a multimeter and had a 12v feed to the red wires that lead up to the ignition switch, but no reading from the orange ( return?) wires with the ignition switched off or on

Im struggling to see a green connector, guessing its under the airbox?

Ive sorted a lift home tonight so that takes some of the pressure off!

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Default Re: Just ridden to work and my bike wont restart!! help

Yeh the airbox is probably in the way. I had exactly the same issue except I was at the Ponderosa in Wales in winter when it happened!
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Old 01-08-13, 01:38 PM   #10
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this might make no sense, but last time this happened to me i was pulling everything out checking all the connections. finally i pulled out my ecu and put it back in and then it all started up so.. its a long shot but maybe worth a go. i have a k3 pointy aswell
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