Which bit of clutch needs replacing? - SV650.org

ChrisCurvyS · 19-07-13, 03:23 PM

For over a year now I've had to constantly re-adjust my clutch to keep it from dragging and have had to keep the adjuster at the lever turned our precariously far to the right in order to get enough purchase to change gear smoothly.

Seems to be related to a clear visual fault with the lifter thingy (possibly made worse by a larger front sprocket) - here's a previous thread with valuable as ever input from Sid Squid:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...ghlight=mortal

After putting off replacing the lifter machanism for so long, I've now got to the stage where the adjuster behind the sprocket cover is up as far as it can go and I've also had to pull the cable out a bit from the frame to keep it changing gear and finding neutral, so I know the game's up.

My question is: will I also need to replace the clutch plates or any other bits too? The clutch hasn't been slipping (apart from when I've adjusted it badly) but my Curvy has done about 45k now so may well need one sooner or later anyway.

19-07-13, 04:57 PM

What's the worm gear like on the clutch mechanism (the bit behind the sprocket cover) as if there is a lot of slop in due to wear or missing bearings, it make disengaging the clutch require more cable pull. My curvy is on 67,000 miles with the original clutch and lots of adjustment left so it seems it's just an adjustment issue on yours.

Red ones · 19-07-13, 05:46 PM

Sound like the clutch adjuster mechanism aka worm gear. They are made of finest soft cheese. It's a 20 minute job to do and a new one costs about £45. Mine packed in at about 65,000 miles but only recently replaced it - wished I did it sooner.

I'd do that then reassess the issue .

Sid Squid · 19-07-13, 11:26 PM

If it doesn't slip the clutch itself is probably OK. As it drags, the lifter probably isn't.

ChrisCurvyS · 22-07-13, 09:44 AM

Thanks for the responses chaps - Murley, if the worm gear is the bit around the adjustment nut/screw, then it's fecked. The three-pronged thing popped out ages ago and sits much further forward than it should do - as you say it's needed more and more cable pull (to the point where I've actually pulled the cable out the side of the bike!) to make it work.

Red ones - does the clutch adjuster machanism come as one single unit? Obviously I'll replace the cable at the same time too.

jambo · 22-07-13, 09:59 AM

The clutch lifter is all one unit, around £45.
Item #17 on this fiche: Suzuki part #23200-11D00 for the 99-02 SV650

Jambo

ChrisCurvyS · 22-07-13, 11:39 AM

many thanks jambo - sorry wasn't being lazy, just wasn't sure what the correct term was. Will get that ordered and see if it sorts it.

ChrisCurvyS · 07-09-13, 09:03 AM

Finally getting round to sorting this. Quick question - will the lifter/actuator from a pointy fit a curvy? That Robinsons Foundry is obviously listed as up to 02 only but they look identical.

If so, this looks good value:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-SV6...item1e7ea05738

yorkie_chris · 07-09-13, 09:07 AM

Yeah same part

ChrisCurvyS · 07-09-13, 09:13 AM

Cheers Chris.

Would normally be wary of getting it from a breakers to save £20 but it looks a good one and would take longer to get one from Robinsons. Want to get back in the saddle asap, sick of sitting in fecking traffic jams.

19-07-13, 05:46 PM	#3
Red ones Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 1,422	Re: Which bit of clutch needs replacing? Sound like the clutch adjuster mechanism aka worm gear. They are made of finest soft cheese. It's a 20 minute job to do and a new one costs about £45. Mine packed in at about 65,000 miles but only recently replaced it - wished I did it sooner. I'd do that then reassess the issue .

19-07-13, 11:26 PM	#4
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Which bit of clutch needs replacing? If it doesn't slip the clutch itself is probably OK. As it drags, the lifter probably isn't. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

22-07-13, 09:44 AM	#5
ChrisCurvyS Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cheshire Posts: 562	Re: Which bit of clutch needs replacing? Thanks for the responses chaps - Murley, if the worm gear is the bit around the adjustment nut/screw, then it's fecked. The three-pronged thing popped out ages ago and sits much further forward than it should do - as you say it's needed more and more cable pull (to the point where I've actually pulled the cable out the side of the bike!) to make it work. Red ones - does the clutch adjuster machanism come as one single unit? Obviously I'll replace the cable at the same time too. __________________ Red Suzuki GN 125 - sold Black Yamaha XJR400 - sold Current - 2000 SV650S curvy, red. 1969 VW Beetle for the snow.

22-07-13, 09:59 AM	#6
jambo Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Croydonia Posts: 5,376	Re: Which bit of clutch needs replacing? The clutch lifter is all one unit, around £45. Item #17 on this fiche: Suzuki part #23200-11D00 for the 99-02 SV650 Jambo __________________ Modern motorcycles are bloody brilliant, enjoy it while we can Last edited by jambo; 22-07-13 at 10:00 AM. Reason: Forgot the link!

22-07-13, 11:39 AM	#7
ChrisCurvyS Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cheshire Posts: 562	Re: Which bit of clutch needs replacing? many thanks jambo - sorry wasn't being lazy, just wasn't sure what the correct term was. Will get that ordered and see if it sorts it. __________________ Red Suzuki GN 125 - sold Black Yamaha XJR400 - sold Current - 2000 SV650S curvy, red. 1969 VW Beetle for the snow.

19-07-13, 03:23 PM	#1
ChrisCurvyS Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cheshire Posts: 562	Which bit of clutch needs replacing? For over a year now I've had to constantly re-adjust my clutch to keep it from dragging and have had to keep the adjuster at the lever turned our precariously far to the right in order to get enough purchase to change gear smoothly. Seems to be related to a clear visual fault with the lifter thingy (possibly made worse by a larger front sprocket) - here's a previous thread with valuable as ever input from Sid Squid: http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...ghlight=mortal After putting off replacing the lifter machanism for so long, I've now got to the stage where the adjuster behind the sprocket cover is up as far as it can go and I've also had to pull the cable out a bit from the frame to keep it changing gear and finding neutral, so I know the game's up. My question is: will I also need to replace the clutch plates or any other bits too? The clutch hasn't been slipping (apart from when I've adjusted it badly) but my Curvy has done about 45k now so may well need one sooner or later anyway. __________________ Red Suzuki GN 125 - sold Black Yamaha XJR400 - sold Current - 2000 SV650S curvy, red. 1969 VW Beetle for the snow.

19-07-13, 04:57 PM	#2
Murley. Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which bit of clutch needs replacing? What's the worm gear like on the clutch mechanism (the bit behind the sprocket cover) as if there is a lot of slop in due to wear or missing bearings, it make disengaging the clutch require more cable pull. My curvy is on 67,000 miles with the original clutch and lots of adjustment left so it seems it's just an adjustment issue on yours.

07-09-13, 09:03 AM	#8
ChrisCurvyS Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cheshire Posts: 562	Re: Which bit of clutch needs replacing? Finally getting round to sorting this. Quick question - will the lifter/actuator from a pointy fit a curvy? That Robinsons Foundry is obviously listed as up to 02 only but they look identical. If so, this looks good value: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-SV6...item1e7ea05738 __________________ Red Suzuki GN 125 - sold Black Yamaha XJR400 - sold Current - 2000 SV650S curvy, red. 1969 VW Beetle for the snow.

07-09-13, 09:07 AM	#9
yorkie_chris Noisy Git Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax/Leeds Posts: 26,645	Re: Which bit of clutch needs replacing? Yeah same part __________________ Currently Ex Biker Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat

07-09-13, 09:13 AM	#10
ChrisCurvyS Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cheshire Posts: 562	Re: Which bit of clutch needs replacing? Cheers Chris. Would normally be wary of getting it from a breakers to save £20 but it looks a good one and would take longer to get one from Robinsons. Want to get back in the saddle asap, sick of sitting in fecking traffic jams. __________________ Red Suzuki GN 125 - sold Black Yamaha XJR400 - sold Current - 2000 SV650S curvy, red. 1969 VW Beetle for the snow.

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