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Old 09-09-13, 04:57 PM   #1
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Default Pointy suspension & brake upgrades?

Ok so I posted a little while back about my rear suspension needing replacing, I have to pm someone about a stock shock to ride me over, but thanks to being too keen with the right wrist I am staring down the barrel of some intense insurance hikes, which means I doubt I can get a new bike for a while. So, basically I want to make the sv better and mine again (basically standard) so it isn't so horrible a wait.

I appreciate that these questions have been asked before but to save me searching lots of different threads I thought I would see if I can get what I want in one place!

Things I want to change in time are:

Front end.
It's a 2010 L0, I have seen various posts about gsxr front ends and wondered what model/year I need to look out for and what extra things I need to be wary of, such as bits that need re-routing etc.

My understanding is that it's the forks, wheel and brakes?

Back end,
Shock, lots of people kindly suggested a zx10r shock for the rear, 04-06?? Any other suggestions and year ranges? I don't want to cut or modify anything so the best option that allows me to leave it as standard is what in after. My local dealer said they can get a hagon (?) one for £265ish but never heard of them and that is a bit steep but as a fall back option it's a known variable.

Brake, I know nobody ever uses it but I do, a lot, mainly in slow traffic to/from work. Any ideas what kind of upgrade I can do here?

Middle,
After a decent horn, so far the heat hasn't caused it to stop working like it did on my k9, but just in case it's something I have been meaning to sort. Any suggestions on a good one that is easy to swap?

Think that is about it. It will be a long process but I hope to get a list of items and work out costs then beg borrow and steal the funds for them!

Thanks in advance peeps!
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Old 09-09-13, 05:04 PM   #2
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Default Re: Pointy upgrades....

Putting a GSXR front end on won't help with your insurance when you declare that level of mods! Debrix emulators are almost as good and keep stock appearance.
Brakes - braided hose (HEL or Goodridge etc) with GG pads will send you over the bars (almost).
Horn - stebel Nautilus or clone is excellent if you don't mind adding a relay for the extra current.
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Old 09-09-13, 05:04 PM   #3
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thanks to being too keen with the right wrist I am staring down the barrel of some intense insurance hikes
Most of the mods you mention will only serve to increase your insurance premium further, Unless you plan not to declare them which could leave you not covered at all....

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Old 09-09-13, 05:07 PM   #4
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Default Pointy upgrades....

Yeah will declare it all, but hoping that wont be as bad as getting a nice shiny new Daytona 675 will be!

Cheers, got braided lines so you reckon sticking with the standard front end and brakes with the new pads will be ok?

Will look in to the emulators!
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Old 09-09-13, 05:08 PM   #5
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Default Re: Pointy upgrades....

my advice for what it's worth.

front. get springs to suit your weight and emulators or go the full hog and get cartridge drop ins.

brakes. fine if serviced properly and with the better front end they surprise surprise work better. i always laugh my titz off with their reaction when i service people brakes.

rear. with the money you save on not doing a GSXR front conversion i would go for a Nitron Sport, set up for you and your bike. while everyone says that the ZX, etc.etc work they are nowhere near the quality/feel of a good shock.
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Old 10-09-13, 07:56 AM   #6
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Default Re: Pointy upgrades....

For the money of cartridges you could have done the GSXR stuff!

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Most of the mods you mention will only serve to increase your insurance premium further, Unless you plan not to declare them which could leave you not covered at all....

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Wrong on both counts.
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Wrong on both counts.
Really? How's that YC?
I know for a fact that declaring the mods on my SV increased my premium, namely suspension, brakes, exhaust etc.

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Really? How's that YC?
I know for a fact that declaring the mods on my SV increased my premium, namely suspension, brakes, exhaust etc.
They will not "only" increase premiums, they'll also make it handle and stop a sight better too

The not covered at all bit is highly debatable.


I found it made next to no difference to premiums, just be "careful" about how you word it. "ere mate I smashed it up so I bodged on some front end I found on ebay like" isn't the way to go
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They will not "only" increase premiums, they'll also make it handle and stop a sight better too

The not covered at all bit is highly debatable.


I found it made next to no difference to premiums, just be "careful" about how you word it. "ere mate I smashed it up so I bodged on some front end I found on ebay like" isn't the way to go
Haha ok ok yes, handling and stoping will change too

As far as being carful how you word it to your insurance company, I'd say phone them as opposed to doing your quote online. I found when declaring mods online you just tick boxes as to which area of the bike you've modified without being able to add detail/specifics.

Agree that the "not declaring mods leaves you without cover" is debatable but there's no doubt it will complicate any potential claim if the company find anything on the bike which isn't specified on the policy. It only gives them room to wriggle out of paying up either the full amount or a reduced amount given half a chance.
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Default Pointy suspension & brake upgrades?

Will have a look at some of the alternatives to the front end swap.

And re the disclosures, well aware of what I need to do on that front, my best mate was a fraud investigator in motor insurance for years before I started working with him investigating fraud in medical insurance.

The invalidating the policy but will be getting easier for insurance companies thanks to new legislation which passed last year, so we all need to be a lot more careful about disclosing anything for all types of insurance!
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