But is it art? - SV650.org

Littlepeahead · 14-11-13, 11:31 AM

Interested to hear the Org opinions on this one.

Yesterday a painting by Francis Bacon of Lucian Freud became the most expensive artwork ever sold at auction after it fetched £89 million in New York.

It has been described as "A true masterpiece and one of the greatest paintings to come up for auction in a current generation. It marks Bacon and Freud's relationship, paying tribute to the creative and emotional kinship between the two artists."

Personally if my friend painted something like this of me I'd give them a good slap and tell them to try a bit harder as it looks like he's been hit round the head with a rolling pin.

So OMO, what do you think of the ultra rich paying £89m for a hideous piece of 'art'?

14-11-13, 11:40 AM

I'd have it in the throne room above my gold throne which would also happen to be encrusted with rubies and diamonds spelling out my name.

Other than that I'd spend my £89m on something useful, like helping the Philippines

14-11-13, 11:53 AM

I think it's obscene tbh, Maria on here is what I'd call an artist with her wildlife sketches, much more detail and skill IMO.

Some people have too much money, that would feed a lot of starving, thirsty people in the phillipines ATM.

14-11-13, 12:13 PM

It's art no doubt about that.

I don't think it's worth that much and I don't think its very good TBH, To me art is to be enjoyed or at least to trigger emotions and there's nothing enjoyable or interesting about it.

I don't really care about the value though, the money doesn't vanish it just moves from one idiot to another and the more times it does that the better.

14-11-13, 12:17 PM

Anyway, the pole is invalid! Org rules are that there is always a "Keith D" option

14-11-13, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cymraeg_Atodeg

Anyway, the pole is invalid! Org rules are that there is always a "Keith D" option

Is Keith D art?

chris8886 · 14-11-13, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spank86

I don't think it's worth that much and I don't think its very good TBH, To me art is to be enjoyed or at least to trigger emotions and there's nothing enjoyable or interesting about it.

exactly spank, it's not in the slightest bit enjoyable or pleasant on the eye, IT'S F****** HIDEOUS!!!! quite why anyone would want this I have no idea and for such a ridiculous sum of money too.

yorkie_chris · 14-11-13, 01:51 PM

Why can art not be hideous or otherwise not aesthetically pleasing? I think it's purpose is to convey emotion or a message.
I don't see any message in this painting.

I prefer art to be aesthetically pleasing at least and came to this thread hoping to see boobs.

14-11-13, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Why can art not be hideous or otherwise not aesthetically pleasing? I think it's purpose is to convey emotion or a message.
I don't see any message in this painting.
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IMHO it can be, that's why I added to "trigger emotions".

Including bad ones. Botticelli's map of hell springs to mind.

For me this painting does nothing either way.

Bibio · 14-11-13, 03:12 PM

so called 'art' is only a way of moving large amounts of money around. once its hanging on your wall/vault/gallery it's not affected by tax. sometimes you loose sometimes you win the value back or more. it's certainly subject to lees tax than houses for example.

View Poll Results: Worth £89 million?
Having shedloads of money is clearly no indication of having good taste	12	52.17%
The rich only buy art as an investment - not as a thing of beauty	8	34.78%
It's a masterpiece and worth every penny	2	8.70%
Are you sure that's Freud, it looks like Dave Preston after a night out	8	34.78%
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14-11-13, 11:31 AM	#1
Littlepeahead Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Saaarrrfff Posts: 2,908	But is it art? Interested to hear the Org opinions on this one. Yesterday a painting by Francis Bacon of Lucian Freud became the most expensive artwork ever sold at auction after it fetched £89 million in New York. It has been described as "A true masterpiece and one of the greatest paintings to come up for auction in a current generation. It marks Bacon and Freud's relationship, paying tribute to the creative and emotional kinship between the two artists." Personally if my friend painted something like this of me I'd give them a good slap and tell them to try a bit harder as it looks like he's been hit round the head with a rolling pin. So OMO, what do you think of the ultra rich paying £89m for a hideous piece of 'art'? __________________ Tender is the day, The demons go away, Lord I need to find, Someone who can heal my mind...

14-11-13, 11:40 AM	#2
Cymraeg_Atodeg Guest Posts: n/a	Re: But is it art? I'd have it in the throne room above my gold throne which would also happen to be encrusted with rubies and diamonds spelling out my name. Other than that I'd spend my £89m on something useful, like helping the Philippines Last edited by Cymraeg_Atodeg; 14-11-13 at 12:16 PM.

14-11-13, 11:53 AM	#3
Specialone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: But is it art? I think it's obscene tbh, Maria on here is what I'd call an artist with her wildlife sketches, much more detail and skill IMO. Some people have too much money, that would feed a lot of starving, thirsty people in the phillipines ATM.

14-11-13, 12:13 PM	#4
Spank86 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: But is it art? It's art no doubt about that. I don't think it's worth that much and I don't think its very good TBH, To me art is to be enjoyed or at least to trigger emotions and there's nothing enjoyable or interesting about it. I don't really care about the value though, the money doesn't vanish it just moves from one idiot to another and the more times it does that the better.

14-11-13, 12:17 PM	#5
Cymraeg_Atodeg Guest Posts: n/a	Re: But is it art? Anyway, the pole is invalid! Org rules are that there is always a "Keith D" option

14-11-13, 01:51 PM	#8
yorkie_chris Noisy Git Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax/Leeds Posts: 26,645	Re: But is it art? Why can art not be hideous or otherwise not aesthetically pleasing? I think it's purpose is to convey emotion or a message. I don't see any message in this painting. I prefer art to be aesthetically pleasing at least and came to this thread hoping to see boobs. __________________ Currently Ex Biker Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat

14-11-13, 03:12 PM	#10
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,569	Re: But is it art? so called 'art' is only a way of moving large amounts of money around. once its hanging on your wall/vault/gallery it's not affected by tax. sometimes you loose sometimes you win the value back or more. it's certainly subject to lees tax than houses for example.