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Old 14-08-13, 09:03 AM   #1
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Default Just been pulled.

So there I am driving home in the van from a visit to the quacks. As I pass a local hotel I notice a traffic unit parked up in the car park. Next thing there are blue behind me.

I have done nothing wrong so as there are traffic islands in the middle of the road I carry on trying not to impede him till he can overtake. Instead of carrying on though he stops in front of me, gets out and says I needed you to pull into Dantes do a U turn and follow me.

So parks up. Have I any documents? No my wallet is at home. Is it my van? yes. What is in it nothing. He looks over my shoulder to confirm it is empty. Have a seat in the car.

Impressive, when he manages to get a radio link for his system, within seconds they know the van is moted, insured etc. I have given them my name/address as it pops up on their screen so to make sure they ask me for date of birth.

Then out and it is a VOSA check. He gives it a quick once over as he already knows the MOT was only a couple of weeks ago, but still tyres, lights, wipers, suspension springs etc.


All the above I have no problem with. Any initiative that may reduce unlicensed, uninsured, unroadworthy vehicles I support. But next.

Some woman from the local council, name, address, employment status, what benefits I am on. BENEFITS grrrrhh NONE I must pay for everyone else. What right has a total stranger on the street got to ask me personal information even though I have nothing to hide. The van is my own property. It is not an indication of employment.

My rant at her for this probably means she is going to phone her office and check my address against their database to discover apart from paying the council my rates I have no other dealings with them.

Bloody jobsworth.
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Old 14-08-13, 09:07 AM   #2
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Eh, Where did the woman from the council come from?
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Old 14-08-13, 09:08 AM   #3
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I mean physically. I am aware or the tautology in my previous post. You know what i mean.
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Old 14-08-13, 09:16 AM   #4
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She was there with them on the pub car park where they were bringing vehicles into.

half a dozen traffic, a few VOSA, transporters (both car and bike) and a couple wearing council T shirts.



I guess they were trying to get people who are working and claiming housing benefit or something like that. But as I said in my rant. Driving a personal van is no indication of it being a work vehicle.

Incidentally as I carried on home. I noticed a few bike cops lurking on the side roads as well. I thought my local police only used bikes when the football was on and they needed escorts.
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Old 14-08-13, 10:28 AM   #5
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Nothing unusual in all these checks by VOSA on a commercial vehicle and driver.A van no matter how small is classified as commercial. The vehicle was MOT'd recently but it could have suffered a cut tyre, broken windscreen or other damage since. MOT's are only an indication of roadworthiness at the time of examination and it is up to the individual or company to maintain the standards set by VOSA on ANY vehicle including motorbikes.
A lot of small vans are insured as private but used for trade purposes or delivering small parcels which is illegal.Likewise people hire vehicles for trade use without operators licenses.
You would be surprised how many offenders are caught in VOSA checks and vehicles impounded, people working casual while claiming benefits,and outstanding warrants are not in the least uncommon.

As a haulage contractor it is weekly occurrence.

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Old 14-08-13, 10:41 AM   #6
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Even though it is only used for private use. I have full business insurance.

As I said in my initial post, I have no issue with any initiatives that take out wrong vehicles/drivers.

I just cannot understand how a road policing operation should also have council benefits involved?

Actually I was surprised not to have had the tank dipped.
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Old 14-08-13, 11:01 AM   #7
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Lol I was just about to ask if they dipped the tank.
Seems to be a popular thing for them currently.

Cant fault it, and cant fault your attitude Tim I bet they were slightly relieved to have someone who didnt kick off with all the checks. Well until the council lady weighed in but I recon I'd have gotten my back up a bit at that point as well.
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Old 14-08-13, 11:19 AM   #8
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I guess they were trying to get people who are working and claiming housing benefit or something like that. But as I said in my rant. Driving a personal van is no indication of it being a work vehicle.
for future reference you're under no obligation to deal with anyone except the police (and anyone from VOSA with regards to the van).

Once the police have done you can leave with or without answering additional questions.
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Old 14-08-13, 11:43 AM   #9
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and the inland revenue/customs

i would have told the council to bolt. they have no power to interrogate.
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Old 14-08-13, 01:24 PM   #10
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My son has just turned up, not happy.

He got pulled in his firms van. He has worked for them as a delivery driver for about 1 month. Turns out they have not added him to the insurance. His boss says he has told the brokers. But they haven't done it.

He has been charged with driving uninsured. But they confirm he is now on the insurance as a result of his boss talking to the insurers etc so was able to drive it away.

his boss is saying he will pay the fine, but 6 points on a drivers licence does well for job prospects. He can argue it in court. but facts are facts. At the point he was stopped he hadn't got cover.
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