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Old 09-05-05, 08:14 PM   #1
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Default Speeding BLUFF? Or am I to start worrying? (bit long winded)

I Went for a ride two up on the sunday of bank holiday weekend. Was travelling at about 80 on a 60 road untill a got around the slight left hand bend ahead.
Seeing the road ahead was empty i opend the throttle and settled at an indicated 115mph (naughty i know) until the next slight bend where i relaxed off the throttle and focussed hard on the horizon and seen a little stripey blob (which turned out to be the behind of two police cars and a police bike) and braked like mad to the speed limit!
the distance from me to the police was only just visible and i have 20/20 vision! i was expecting to get pulled and get a slapped wrist as i was sure they would of at least heard my antics! Sure enough i got pulled!
The first words out of the officers mouth were along the lines of "being pulled over ..blaa blaa.. suspected speeding ... blaa" but then he mentioned something about a covert speed camera they were testing on that stretch of road and wrote me out an NIP (notice of intended prosicution) and a producer.
I took every thing on the chin and was nice and polite. took my helmet off so he could see my face etc! I admitted to not having displayed my tax as i had struggled with the holder, to which he replied he wouldnt trouble me with and would just add it to my producer, which i thought was nice of him! I asked what speed i was clocked at, and he couldnt respond and said it may not have captured me(I thought under acpo guidelines they had to tell you the speed?? )! And when i questioned the position of the aleged camera, he just grinned and said "im not likely to tell you that now am i?" but again under ACPO guidlines i thought they had to tell you of any details you asked of the speed trap / camera!??? He proceded to tell me i may not get prosocuted because the camera may not be working, it may not have got my plate, or it may not have read my speed correctly.
while he was explaining this i could hear a bike approaching much in the same manner as i did and slow at the last bend! he then travelled half way up the straight at the speed limit, only to do a u turn and bugger off! I commented to the officer about the biker being a sneeky git and the officer laughed!
his collegue then radiod for some one to try intercept the bike as they didnt have his reg number.
This is also what made me belive it to be a bluff, as surely if there was a camera, it would have his reg number stored! Have i been blufffed or am i right to be papping myself?
oppinions please! long winded dribble over, thankyou to any one with the patitence to read this
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Old 09-05-05, 08:32 PM   #2
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1) Did he caution you? ("Is there anything you have to say... might be used against you in a court of law etc").
2) As there was more than one officer in the car then they could issue a NIP in anyway as they don't actually need proof that you were speeding, their judgement will be relied upon by the magistrate.
3) If you weren't cautioned then it's only going to be a £60 fine and a three pointer (I think).
4) You never heard of paragraphs?


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Old 09-05-05, 08:39 PM   #3
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When/If you receive the NIP... ask for evidence.

The word "testing" worries me!
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Old 09-05-05, 08:39 PM   #4
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I got a caution right at the end as he let me on my way!

I think i was too far away for them to use oppinions and was round a bend at the time of speeding. after the bend the distance was far enough for pedestrians to not be visible. I just saw a yellow blur with what i thought was stripes and slowed even more just in time for my suspitions to be correct

Sorry bout the lack of paragraphs I get kinda impatient when i write or type and like to get it finished as soon as poss
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Old 09-05-05, 08:44 PM   #5
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When/If you receive the NIP... ask for evidence.
I got the NIP to sign on the spot. but there were nothing written, and no mention of evidence!
I thought that was if they sent you a speeding ticket? cause i didnt get one of them!?
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Old 09-05-05, 08:46 PM   #6
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That reads like a bit of a scare story to me... i hope i'm right (for once)
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Old 09-05-05, 08:48 PM   #7
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That reads like a bit of a scare story to me... i hope i'm right (for once)
I really hope so

Ive only had my full license 6 months
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Old 09-05-05, 09:53 PM   #8
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hi mate,

Just to clear things up

You say you were cautioned and you mentioned you'd signed the NIP? yes/no?
What was written on the NIP?
yes the officers don't need camera evidence HOWEVER!! its not always taken as gospel it depends on the situation!

Not knowing all the facts despite the speed being excessive it was probably a scare. which worked!!

If you do hear more from this PM me and I may help with advice
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Old 09-05-05, 09:59 PM   #9
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You say you were cautioned and you mentioned you'd signed the NIP? yes/no?
What was written on the NIP?
1) Yes i was cautioned,
2) Yes i signed the NIP
3) The NIP just has the road number "a162 sherburn bypass"
and "(C)" circled "(exceeding a speed limit)", signed, dated, rank and number. thats it! no other info!

Thanks for you input mate, and ill be sure to take up your offer on further help!

Thanks again
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Old 09-05-05, 10:01 PM   #10
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I got a caution right at the end as he let me on my way!
I mean an official police caution that they have to speak before they proceed to write up their paperwork/NIP. They can't give it afterwards and it's not a "don't do it again sonny" type of caution .


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