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Old 10-07-05, 08:40 PM   #1
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Default Standard Tokico calipers

As calipers go, how good are these compares to say, Brembo?

I've got wavy discs, sintered pads, Goodridge stainless hoses, and Brembo master cylinders already. Would I notice much more difference for road riding?

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Old 10-07-05, 08:41 PM   #2
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No comparison to Brembo. Sliding calipers, like OE on a Sv are old tech.
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Old 10-07-05, 08:48 PM   #3
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No comparison to Brembo. Sliding calipers, like OE on a Sv are old tech.
Please explain, or point me to a link. I didn't know there were different types.

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Old 10-07-05, 08:55 PM   #4
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Brembos havve opposing pistons, either 4 or 6 say. Pressure from both sides of the caliper.
SV tokicos only have 2 pistons, they only squeeze from one side.
Not all calipers are the same but all sports bikes use opposing piston types. Race bikes even go so far as to have one pad per caliper piston.
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Old 10-07-05, 09:13 PM   #5
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Brembos havve opposing pistons, either 4 or 6 say. Pressure from both sides of the caliper.
SV tokicos only have 2 pistons, they only squeeze from one side.
Not all calipers are the same but all sports bikes use opposing piston types. Race bikes even go so far as to have one pad per caliper piston.
Cheers for that, but back to the original question, with everything else I've added, and for sub 100mph speeds, would the difference be that noticeable?

I'd like to have the best brakes I can on my bike... with one proviso - I've had the following aftermarket bodywork put on my bike, and they're shaped to fit around the OEM calipers:

I know that most Suzuki's come with Tokico as standard, but do any of the other models have calipers with the same dimensions? Or any better calipers at all for that matter?

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Old 10-07-05, 09:19 PM   #6
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Nope you've done pretty much all you can with the standard set up.
Including adding to unsprung weight.

The only way to fit other calipers is to make adaptor brackets, then you could fit opposing type calipers.
I don't see the need unless you're racing or stunting.
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Old 11-07-05, 06:38 AM   #7
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The SV brakes are ok if carrying no weight, but fully loaded on the M1, as I found out yesterday, then the bike is alot slower stopping than cars.

You need brackets to fit other calipers, but then it would probably be better just to replace the front end.
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The SV brakes are ok if carrying no weight, but fully loaded on the M1, as I found out yesterday, then the bike is alot slower stopping than cars.
Think you need to oil those pads again mate. :P Two-up plus luggage and my brakes (although needing a fairly heavy hand) could still haul me up pretty quick.
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SV brakes are nothing special technically speaking, but are perfectly adequate when working properly.
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Having just switched to Tokico 4-pots on the GSXR front, I'd say that while the theoretical increase in power is massive, the limiting factor is the same as the 2-pots- not how much power you have, but how well you and the bike can use it. Stock brakes will lock the front wheel, after all, you don't need more power than that What has made a big difference to my braking is the better forks- less dive, and better shock absorption while compressed. That makes itboth easier to use the power and gives more confidence in using more of it. Once I upgrade the MC I expect better feel from the brakes which will also make a difference.

This is really just conjecture but I suspect that if you put the best brakes in the world on a stock SV front end it wouldn't make a huge amount of difference to your stopping distances. I'd imagine you'd get a bigger upgrade with appropriate springs and oil, or swapping to the stickiest tyre you can use, than chaning calipers with no other upgrades.
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