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Old 07-04-05, 04:06 AM   #1
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im having a hard time getting the front wheel up on my k2 full fairing sv.iv tried clutching but when i release the clutch the back tire spins a little but tires stay on the ground.i am running a dunlop 208 so i dont think the tire is to hard my gears are stockany help would be appreciated.ive also tried in 1st gear to let off the gas then when the forks dip i gas it but the front only comes up about a foot then right back down i may not be giving it enough gas but i dont want it to come all the way over.help please
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Old 07-04-05, 04:12 AM   #2
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Hey,

Keep trying the first gear, on-off-on technique. I myself, have never wheelied but I think I may still be of help to you. Your not gonna go over on the first try. You will most likely close the throttle as soon as you feel the front tire up. Just take it slow and slowly progress and bring that wheel up abit each time. I am sure the other guys will have lots of advice for you in the morning. Good luck! Ride safe! Be smart! PS: Welcome to the site. Thanks,

Mitch
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Old 07-04-05, 06:21 AM   #3
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I am new to my k4 sv650s but in first gear it will get up good, and if I clutch it in 2nd it will stand up with me, I am new to wheelies, but it still gets up, I also run a dunlop. but like you were already told start in first gear and work with that, and get used to everything, also check the ground you are on make sure it is a ground that the tired will grab, not a slick kind of road. Maybe I have been a little help.
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Old 07-04-05, 06:43 AM   #4
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I would recomend your speak to BigApe, he is the site wheelie person. He will be teaching me this summer. I would not recomend 1st gear ones thow, i find (and others do too) them to very unpredictable especially with the on off on approach... clutching in 1st should be more controlled.
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Old 07-04-05, 07:15 AM   #5
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I would recomend your speak to BigApe, he is the site wheelie person. He will be teaching me this summer. I would not recomend 1st gear ones thow, i find (and others do too) them to very unpredictable especially with the on off on approach... clutching in 1st should be more controlled.
Don't you mean clutching in 2nd, mate?

Personally I'd stick to using first, just off the throttle and getting used to the feeling of the wheel coming up.

Try it on an old crosser or some thing if you can to get used to it and limit damage if you drop it

I'm not very good at all but practise definitely helps
No mate, i meant clutching in 1st, that is how Ape does them and they seem very controlled......
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Old 07-04-05, 09:01 AM   #6
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I would practice, but i ain't got a bike at the moment... and then when i do it will different as it is an in-line 4
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Old 07-04-05, 10:56 AM   #7
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It's easy, just accelerate as hard as possible away from the lights to get away from a chavmobile that is gunning its engine and looks like it'll have you off
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Old 07-04-05, 11:21 AM   #8
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I would recomend your speak to BigApe, he is the site wheelie person. He will be teaching me this summer. I would not recomend 1st gear ones thow, i find (and others do too) them to very unpredictable especially with the on off on approach... clutching in 1st should be more controlled.
Don't you mean clutching in 2nd, mate?

Personally I'd stick to using first, just off the throttle and getting used to the feeling of the wheel coming up.

Try it on an old crosser or some thing if you can to get used to it and limit damage if you drop it

I'm not very good at all but practise definitely helps
No mate, i meant clutching in 1st, that is how Ape does them and they seem very controlled......
I find that things happend rather quickly when the wheel is in the air in first gear. It is more controlable (that spelling is not even close, but wachagonnado) in 2nd with the clutch. Wheelies become easier to control the faster you go.
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Old 07-04-05, 12:12 PM   #9
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I would practice, but i ain't got a bike at the moment... and then when i do it will different as it is an in-line 4
Bit more scary on my 600, you have to be going faster to get the front up... Oh well, more adrenaline I suppose
Should be scarier on my 750 then....
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Old 07-04-05, 12:20 PM   #10
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I clutch in 1st gear, as I'm looking to get it up high quick and eventually start slowing it down on the rear brake, amiing for 12

I would not reccomend power wheelies at all as they are often quite dangerous.. people do them because the wheel lifts slower (to start with) but then will jump up a lot higher a lot quicker!! Which is where people start to get into flip territory.

The way I do it works well for me, I'm no expert but 1st gear clutching is very smooth and controlled. Smooth and controlled is the aim of the game. Height and distance will come with practice and experience, bike comfort etc. You need to get comfortable being on the back wheel and also with clutching as to get up to balance point quickly you need to give it a nice bit of smooth clutch.

So;

Ride along in 1st gear at about 20mph.. gently start accelerating and at about 25mph pull the clutch in to around bite point (no need to pull all the way in as you want to slip it, rather than dump it) let the clutch out smoothly whilst still accelerating and the wheel will lift. Try not to let off the throttle but this will come with practice.

This way puts a bit of pressure on your clutch, no more than a quick start really... but is easier on your chain and sprockets and IMO less likely to flip as it's smooth, not choppy power on power off etc.

Any fool can shut the throttle off then wack it back open to wheely, but they are often people who end up flipping or are often just dangerous in general!!! Some people can do this in perfect control, but for learning I think it's a silly way to wheely.

I hope my way is explained clearly, I'm really bad at explaining but it does work well for me and I will do this on any bike I own, as it's the smoothest and IMO the best. (Gary Rothwell teaches this way too)

Just practice, practice and more practice.. and realise that if you want to do this a lot, get better, get higher / longer etc then one day you will flip it... I doubt you'd come close to flipping whilst first learning, despite it feeling high it probably isn't
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