Want to falsify a NIP?

6 months jail if you get found out.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4762537.stm

Discuss. :P

Im off to pick up chain & sprockets so will add my 2p worth later.

Originally Posted by lynw

Im off to pick up chain & sprockets so will add my 2p worth later.

Did they fall off??

Glad to see the courts have their prioities right. Steal a car get wasted kill someone walk out with community service. Lie on a NIP (stealth tax form ) and get 6 months. They've finally taken over the asylum

Originally Posted by lynw

Discuss. :P

I can't find an emoticon that shows someone stirring a pot, so this one will have to do

Perverting the course of justice isn't it.

THere was a guy got done a while back, said his girlfriend was driving, and she got the points as he would have got a ban if he had come clean.

Then boasted about it on an internet forum and got caught and sent to jail.

[tigersaw]

She should have claimed the car had been hijacked and was full of explosives.

Originally Posted by tigersaw

She should have claimed the car had been hijacked and was full of explosives.

Then claimed asylum

Silly girl; should have said, "I think an American relative may have been driving it. Please can I see the evidence to confirm whether or not this is the case."

6 months is damned harsh. I think they just don't like the fact that a lot of people refuse to play ball and chuck NIPs in the bin then claim they never got them when challenged...

I do think that there are a lot of genuine cases where a couple might genuinely not know who was driving (particularly when they don't contact you until 6 weeks afterwards ). I know myself an a colleague were going on a long trip (5/6 hours) at the end of the working day and kept switching every hour or so, so the other person could rest. Had we been done for speeding (of course, we weren't; neither of us sped on a 5 hour stint on the motorway in order to reduce travelling time by more than an hour ) we genuinely wouldn't have known who was driving unless it was at the start/end of the journey.

The notion that someone in our position could be penalised (IE taken to court and possibly fined £1K) for asking for the evidence because they think we're timewasting/being evasive is absurd. They don't like it, because they know in some cases you'll find that the drivers face is obscured and then default to the "sorry, think it might be my cousing from Australia" defence.

Guess what? If you don't have evidence, you shouldn't be trying to prosecute someone!

[northwind]

Originally Posted by sharriso74

Glad to see the courts have their prioities right. Steal a car get wasted kill someone walk out with community service. Lie on a NIP (stealth tax form ) and get 6 months. They've finally taken over the asylum

Well... The thing is, it's perverting the course of justice. That's a pretty big deal- the position of the courts has always been that the thing you're lying about is irrelevent, it's the fact that you're lying that's at issue. So you could be lying about a murder or adding about a NIP, it's still attempting to prevent justice being served. Which I can understand, though I don't actually agree.

"stealth tax" is a whole nother thing, personally I think it's utter rubbish- you onl;y get NIPped if you break the rules, simple as. I do it all the time, when I get in trouble I don't complain though.

What my grievance is my perceived in-balance in the justice system. Lie to a Judge or a magistrate over a trivial matter you get treated far more harshly that for committing a far more serious crime.